Homeseer and Radio Ra2

Homeseer 2 used to support it.
 
 
You can purchase a Leviton OmniPro II and use the new (beta testing) Homeseer 3 plugin for the OPII panel.
 
Today I use events sometimes in the plugin to control units on the panel or do direct automation (da meat).
 
Sometimes I mix and match events from the OmniPro panel and Homeseer or one watches over the other.
 
I am not sure if the Elk M1 supports Radio Ra.  If so there is a seasoned Homeseer 3 plugin that supports the Elk M1 panel. 
 
The Elk M1 Homeseer plugin author has been around since day 1 of Homeseer (1998).  His forum name is UltraJones.
 
BTW this message has not changed while you have been reading it.  It only looks like it changed.
 
pete_c said:
Homeseer 2 used to support it.
 
That said I am imagining you are typing on your tablet as you drink your Margarita poolside in your now completed and automated home eh?
 
Oh how I wish that were true! Good news is that the demo of my remodel FINALLY started this week. However, I still don't have an exact game plan for my security/automation. The exact feature set I want doesn't seem to exist.
 
For security I would like to use HAI or Elk, with a preference for HAI. And I would like the security to integrate with a dedicated HA controller like Homeseer or RTI. I would like this alarm-to-automation integration to be supported by the manufacturers rather than third parties. I would like the controller to work with Lutron Radio RA2. I want robust Android access. And I don't want to use something like CQC or Elve that could easily become obsolete with the next OS.
 
Oh yeah, and I need to find someone who will install this.
 
Homeseer is not an option since it does not work with Radio Ra2 so I think my next best option on the HA controller side is RTI. Unfortunately, it is not DIY.
 
Of all the installers I've talked to the two best will do RTI + 2gig which I don't think is what I want. And the other will do RTI + HAI which I'm not sure integrate well. (Do they???) I think if I found someone that did Elk + RTI it would probably do the trick.
 
I think I'm going to write a book about my home automation selection process. It will be a cautionary tale   ;)
 
And I don't want to use something like CQC or Elve that could easily become obsolete with the next OS.
How exactly is that going to happen? You think Windows is going to go away any time soon? Microsoft just came out with what is likely to be the most successful version of Windows ever, and that's saying a lot. CQC already outlived RA1, and will likely outlive RA2.
 
Dean Roddey said:
How exactly is that going to happen? You think Windows is going to go away any time soon? Microsoft just came out with what is likely to be the most successful version of Windows ever, and that's saying a lot. CQC already outlived RA1, and will likely outlive RA2.
 
I'm not saying Windows is going to become obsolete. I'm saying something like CQC might be less than fully-compatible with the next Windows release. 
 
CQC was already killed off once before and then resuscitated. I think Elve was also abandoned by its maker and made open source. Point is that I want everything in my automation system to be supported by a company that I don't have to worry about disappearing.
 
EDIT: Good example is the CQC Android app, which I believe is not longer supported. Android support is a HUGE factor for me. HAI and Elk have enough trouble as it is making a functional Android app.
 
You do realize that some very large companies went under the 'Great Recession', so it's not like size really matters? Yes, at the very nadir of the recession we had our doubts and considered that we might have to open source it. But it was never killed off, and was never not for sale or not being developed. CQC has been going for 15 years now, while any number of larger automation companies have gone away. And it's made massive strides forward over the last few years. So I think your doubts are not well founded.
 
They aren't doubts. They are concerns.
 
There is no doubt CQC is a great product. It has lots of fans. I'm just not sure it is right for me right now.
 
And the Android situation is a deal breaker. I think I edited my last post just as you were posting so you may not have seen it. A robust Android interface is a must for me.
 
pete_c said:
Homeseer 2 used to support it.
 
 
You can purchase a Leviton OmniPro II and use the new (beta testing) Homeseer 3 plugin for the OPII panel.
 
Today I use events sometimes in the plugin to control units on the panel or do direct automation (da meat).
 
Sometimes I mix and match events from the OmniPro panel and Homeseer or one watches over the other.
 
I am not sure if the Elk M1 supports Radio Ra.  If so there is a seasoned Homeseer 3 plugin that supports the Elk M1 panel. 
 
The Elk M1 Homeseer plugin author has been around since day 1 of Homeseer (1998).  His forum name is UltraJones.
 
BTW this message has not changed while you have been reading it.  It only looks like it changed.
 
Hahaha, I must be hallucinating!
 
Yes, the Elk M1 supports Radio Ra2 - http://www.elkproducts.com/product-catalog/elk-m1xslu-m1-to-lutron-radiora2-serial-interface
 
So here is an interesting situation. If HS3 supports Elk and Elk supports RR1, does that mean I can control my Lutron lighting with HS3?
 
pete_c said:
Homeseer 2 used to support it.
 
 
You can purchase a Leviton OmniPro II and use the new (beta testing) Homeseer 3 plugin for the OPII panel.
 
Today I use events sometimes in the plugin to control units on the panel or do direct automation (da meat).
 
Sometimes I mix and match events from the OmniPro panel and Homeseer or one watches over the other.
 
I am not sure if the Elk M1 supports Radio Ra.  If so there is a seasoned Homeseer 3 plugin that supports the Elk M1 panel. 
 
The Elk M1 Homeseer plugin author has been around since day 1 of Homeseer (1998).  His forum name is UltraJones.
 
BTW this message has not changed while you have been reading it.  It only looks like it changed.
 
Hahaha, I must be hallucinating!
 
Yes, the Elk M1 supports Radio Ra2 - http://www.elkproducts.com/product-catalog/elk-m1xslu-m1-to-lutron-radiora2-serial-interface
 
So here is an interesting situation. If HS3 supports Elk and Elk supports RR2, does that mean I can control my Lutron lighting with HS3?
 
I guess the same could be asked for HAI + RR2 + HS3 since there is a beta plugin for HS3 (I did not know that).
 
uscpsycho said:
Hahaha, I must be hallucinating!
 
Yes, the Elk M1 supports Radio Ra2 - http://www.elkproducts.com/product-catalog/elk-m1xslu-m1-to-lutron-radiora2-serial-interface
 
So here is an interesting situation. If HS3 supports Elk and Elk supports RR2, does that mean I can control my Lutron lighting with HS3?
 
I guess the same could be asked for HAI + RR2 + HS3 since there is a beta plugin for HS3 (I did not know that).
 
One feature missing on the Elk integration is that it can't see/act on RadioRA2 keypad button presses. With HAI you can have rules activate when a keypad button is pressed. For example a button labeled away could arm the system, turn off the lights, and music when you leave the house.
 
rsw686 said:
One feature missing on the Elk integration is that it can't see/act on RadioRA2 keypad button presses. With HAI you can have rules activate when a keypad button is pressed. For example a button labeled away could arm the system, turn off the lights, and music when you leave the house.
 
But I'm still not clear that if I have HAI and RR2 in combination with HS3 will I be able to control the lighting through HS3?
 
But I'm still not clear that if I have HAI and RR2 in combination with HS3 will I be able to control the lighting through HS3?
 
Yes.  Every lighting device and scene or Link is a variable in Homeseer. 
 
IE: Here utilize UPB, Z-Wave and X10.  I can talk to all of them via Homeseer.
 
Goofing around with the Amazon Echo here can tell the HAI panel to do something via Homeseer.
 
pete_c said:
Yes.  Every lighting device and scene or Link is a variable in Homeseer. 
 
IE: Here utilize UPB, Z-Wave and X10.  I can talk to all of them via Homeseer.
 
Goofing around with the Amazon Echo here can tell the HAI panel to do something via Homeseer.
 
Not to beat a dead horse but I just want to be sure. UPB, Z-Wave and X10 can all be controlled directly via Homeseer. Lutron Radio Ra2 cannot be controlled directly via HS3. But if I have the beta HAI plugin for HS3 then I can control the Lutron from HS3 via HAI?
 
And is this two-way such that if I change the light status of a Lutron light outside of Homeseer that status will update in Homeseer?
 
With all the plug ins that are available for HS3 why isn't there a Radio Ra2 plugin? Especially since it was available for HS2. Is a plug in being developed or is there some technical reason that makes direct communication between HS3 and Radio Ra2 impossible?
 
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