i'm just watching ripped BluRay on my Sage Extenders...

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IVB

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Yawn. I'm just sitting back, watching my ripped Dark Knight BluRay DVD via my Sage HD200 extender! There's a slight stutter on the HD100, but the HD200 is faster and can handle it.

Looks like these rips aren't 100% consistent, it's dependent on the disc. I've been trying to get my Iron Man BluRay to work, but it don't wanna. I'm using AnyDVD-HD to rip, and tsmuxer to convert it. Well, with Dark Knight, I didn't even need to convert it, the BluRay rip worked fine, i just had to pick the .m2ts file that was the movie. It was 32GB, so i'm pretty sure i got the right one.

If I can get this working reliably, i may very well sell off the Sony BD350 I got as I'll just stick with ripped BluRay.

Really, how do you go wrong when you have a single GUI for TV, DVD, BluRay, and you don't even need a touchscreen or alternate piece of energy-sucking equipment in the room to do it. This freaking rocks.
 
Does any Bluray drive for the PC work well with AnyDVD-HD, or do you recommend one that is better than others? I haven't played around with ripping Bluray yet, thanks
 
I just got the one newegg happened to have on sale when I put the order in for some other stuff. But, in typical IVB (and likely most HA DIY'er) fashion, I realized after I bought the drive and did some detailed research that I *should* have gotten a dual-format drive (BluRay and HD-DVD). HD-DVDs are megacheap now, obviously, but your sage extender/PC won't be insulted if it's asked to play a discontinued format.

Although I suppose the extra $50-$70 cost only matters if you buy enough HD-DVDs to offset it, so I guess that makes me feel better. There's not that much content out there worth paying $25-$30/BluRay, even less if you look at the limited HD-DVD title set.
 
And, I just got IronMan working. The basic process (for me) is:

- Rip DVD with AnyDVD-HD. ~1 hour (it's 43GB)
- Find the biggest .m2ts file above, see if it works as-is, if so you're done.
- If not, use tsmuxer to DEmux (aka, extract) the audio & video tracks. ~10 mins
- Use eac3to pull out the DTS audio track. ~25 mins
- Use tsmuxer to re-combine the video & DTS track (from above). ~10 mins.

So either 1 hour or 1:45 from end-end, and now I can really distribute BluRay. Bada Bing!
 
When doing it that way, does it work on the HD100 ? Have you tried playing it on an MVP (crazy I know)?
 
I haven't tried the IronMan rip on the HD100, I can try later tonight. I did try Dark Knight, which was only step #1 (pure AnyDVD-HD rip), and the HD100 had audio stutter there.

I no longer have an MVP, I gave it to beelzerob as it was just sitting here gathering dust. But that is a wacky thought, as your server has to transcode 1080p down to 480p on the fly. Considering the horsepower required to transcode 720p/1080i to 480p on the fly, i can't imagine what a 1080p transcode would need.
 
Well I transcode 720p to my MVP all the time. I have a few SD TV's left in my house, so instead of having to buy both DVD and Blu-Ray version of the movie, I am trying to figure out if I could get away with BR only. I would assume the server CPU is faster than the HD100/200. But then again, if it won't run ok on the HD100, I probably should hold off anyways.
 
IVB said:
And, I just got IronMan working. The basic process (for me) is:

- Rip DVD with AnyDVD-HD. ~1 hour (it's 43GB)
- Find the biggest .m2ts file above, see if it works as-is, if so you're done.
- If not, use tsmuxer to DEmux (aka, extract) the audio & video tracks. ~10 mins
- Use eac3to pull out the DTS audio track. ~25 mins
- Use tsmuxer to re-combine the video & DTS track (from above). ~10 mins.

So either 1 hour or 1:45 from end-end, and now I can really distribute BluRay. Bada Bing!
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A few questions if you dont mind. What is eac3? I gather there is not one tool that does it all? When and why is it necessary to "disasemble/reasemble" a movie?

Thanks.
 
eac3to is a free tool that performs various operations on a/v streams. In this case, it's extracting an audio stream.

There is not a single tool that does it all, primarily because BR DVDs are widely divergent in their content and there's nothing commercially available - it's all freeware (except AnyDVD-HD). Some have TrueHD sound, some have DTS only, some have 480kbps audio streams, some have 640kbps audio streams. Some tools react badly to the 480kbps streams (ie tsmuxer), and jam in extra crap cuz they only know how to write 640kbps. I could go on, but you get the point - there's no "standardization" like there is for DVDs, primarily b/c BR can do so much.

Plus, what i'm trying to do is achieve playback on a $200 SageTV HDExtender. This wouldn't be needed if I was using a PC, I could just use the AnyDVD-HD rip with PowerDVD and call it a day. But I want to do this via Sage, and without using a PC and playback software. Hence, I need to disassemble/reassemble the movie into a bitrate that is playable via my $200 piece of equipment.
 
Thanks for the info. I have never tried to do anything like that. The most I have ever done is watch a DVD using PowerDVD. What your doing sounds more like magic but I guess folks would call it technology.

What gives PowerDVD the ability to play a movie that you've ripped versus your SageTV HDExtender which requires you to do these extra steps? Is it the "horsepower" of the computer that PowerDVD can tap into or does PowerDVD have access to some special "magic".
 
yeah, i didn't know anything about it either, until i found out other folks were playing BluRay via their extenders. I knew literally zero about this 10 days ago, but there's some great how-to threads on the Sage forums.

The main reason PowerDVD works much more easily is that PowerDVD runs on a PC that typically costs >$700 if you DIY, more if you buy it preassembled and consumes 100watts, whereas the Sage Extender is $200 fully baked and runs on 8W.
 
IVB said:
And, I just got IronMan working. The basic process (for me) is:

- Rip DVD with AnyDVD-HD. ~1 hour (it's 43GB)
- Find the biggest .m2ts file above, see if it works as-is, if so you're done.
- If not, use tsmuxer to DEmux (aka, extract) the audio & video tracks. ~10 mins
- Use eac3to pull out the DTS audio track. ~25 mins
- Use tsmuxer to re-combine the video & DTS track (from above). ~10 mins.

So either 1 hour or 1:45 from end-end, and now I can really distribute BluRay. Bada Bing!
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Oooh, life gets better - the latest HD200 firmware fixed the audio stuff. The new process is:

- Rip DVD with AnyDVD-HD. ~1 hour (it's 43GB)
Click to expand...

No need to muck with audio track extraction. Good job Sage!
 
Do you know if anyone got this to work with the HD100, or should I give up on that idea alltogether?
 
heh, that came up today on the CQC webinar too. ask over on the Sage forums, i thought stang'er89 got his HD100's working, but i'm not positive.
 
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