Low priced TV's
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I think it depends on what you are looking for. If you want cheap multicolor just for PLA, a Bambu Lab A1 or A1 mini is a good choice. If you want enclosed so you can add other "engineering" materials like ABS, then the Bambu Lab P1S with AMS is a good choice. I have 2 of these, and 2 Bambu Lab X1Carbons, which have a better color display, and I have some older PRUSA printers. The only problem with these multi-color/material printers is they have lots of waste when changing filaments for multicolor. Snapmaker just announced the U1 which is a 4 toolhead printer to greatly reduce this waste, but its not out yet. Bambu announced the H2C to help there also, but not out. If you just occasionally do multicolor, the first two are fine, certainly to get started, and PLA filament is cheap.
I probably print true multicolor 10% of the time or less. You can also do multicolor by printing each piece separately using a different color, and gluing or snapping pieces together, which eliminates waste. So unless you know you HAVE to have many things multicolor, I wouldn't worry about waste to start.
I probably print true multicolor 10% of the time or less. You can also do multicolor by printing each piece separately using a different color, and gluing or snapping pieces together, which eliminates waste. So unless you know you HAVE to have many things multicolor, I wouldn't worry about waste to start.
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Thanks.
If you have experience with other brands, do you find all the quality hype about Bambu printers to be warranted?
Now there are so many other brands that have equivalent features for about 1/3 of the price. I am still looking at some of the newer Creality models after reading some reviews and comparisons online. Parts are well sourced, typically.
I've had two Creality printers. One was the Creality CR-6 SE. It was a Kickstarter printer but I bought mine after Kickstarter. It never worked and support was always a joke. "Send us a video," do this, do that. Really stupid things that were just delay tactics. Eventually I got my money back from my credit card company. That was many years ago.
Today, because of Bambu, many other companies have pretty good printers. They are probably 95% there for 50% of the cost. The ones that are 100% there tend to be equal in price. But there are some good bargains out there. If your not in a hurry, wait until black Friday.
So are the other non-Bambu as good? So many people at Bambu made DJI drones, so they are quite experienced with high-volume products. Most 3D printer makers have a different mindset. So I would say the Bambu printers are more polished. Not that other can't be made better. Its like Apple products and others. Today quality of most phone brands are equal, but that wasn't always the case. Differences today in 3d printers are quite small, but not usually zero.
Today, because of Bambu, many other companies have pretty good printers. They are probably 95% there for 50% of the cost. The ones that are 100% there tend to be equal in price. But there are some good bargains out there. If your not in a hurry, wait until black Friday.
So are the other non-Bambu as good? So many people at Bambu made DJI drones, so they are quite experienced with high-volume products. Most 3D printer makers have a different mindset. So I would say the Bambu printers are more polished. Not that other can't be made better. Its like Apple products and others. Today quality of most phone brands are equal, but that wasn't always the case. Differences today in 3d printers are quite small, but not usually zero.
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pete_c
Guru
Noticed that Kodi lags a bit when streaming 4k movies ~20Gb...from NAS.
My Kodi TV box does better running with a Gb connection.
Network port is 100Mbs such that wireless would be faster. Adding a Gb port to one of the USB 3.0 ports.
Having an issue configuring NFS client on the Sony Google TV OS.
My Kodi TV box does better running with a Gb connection.
Network port is 100Mbs such that wireless would be faster. Adding a Gb port to one of the USB 3.0 ports.
Having an issue configuring NFS client on the Sony Google TV OS.
pete_c
Guru
While the TV is running better with a Gb connection I did not like the Kodi running. Guessing that it is stressing the TV streaming 4k movies / TV from the NAS. I tried and so far unsucessful getting NFS going on it. Using Samba for access to NAS. VLC works better than KODI streaming 4K from NAS.
Went back to my little Android TV Box converted to CoreElec Kodi. Still working great.
Went back to my little Android TV Box converted to CoreElec Kodi. Still working great.
pete_c
Guru
Getting a deluge of antenna advertisements as I surf the web lately.
Most of the advertisements state that the antennas are ATSC 3.0 (NextGen TV) compatible.
AI Overview:
ATSC 3.0, also known as NextGen TV, is a new standard for over-the-air broadcasting that offers improved picture quality, immersive audio, and more robust signals for both fixed and mobile devices. To watch it, you need a new television with the "NEXTGEN TV" logo or an external tuner, as older ATSC 1.0 TVs cannot decode the new signals. While it promises features like interactive content and advanced emergency alerts, its adoption has been complicated by issues like DRM encryption and patent disputes, which can increase costs and limit functionality like DVR recording.
Key benefits of ATSC 3.0
Better viewing experience: Offers a higher-quality picture, including support for up to 4K, with advanced high dynamic range (HDR) and immersive, multi-dimensional sound like Dolby Atmos.
Improved reception: Provides a more robust signal that is often clearer, with less buffering and fewer dropouts, even in challenging conditions.
Mobile and interactive features: Broadcasts can be received on mobile devices like phones and in cars, and the standard supports interactive content, personalized programming, and advanced emergency alerts.
Integration of content: Aims to combine traditional over-the-air broadcast with on-demand and internet-based content.
What you need to watch ATSC 3.0
A new TV or converter box: Your current ATSC 1.0 TV is not compatible. You must have a newer television with the "NEXTGEN TV" logo or purchase a separate ATSC 3.0 converter box.
An existing antenna: You can use your current over-the-air antenna, as it will work for ATSC 3.0 signals.
Important considerations
DRM encryption: Many broadcasters are using Digital Rights Management (DRM) to encrypt their ATSC 3.0 signals. This can prevent commercial skipping, limit DVR functionality, and even make it impossible to record certain programs.
Cost and compatibility: The need to support DRM can significantly increase the cost of ATSC 3.0-enabled TVs and tuners. Also, fewer devices currently support the necessary software to decode the encrypted channels.
Limited 4K: While the standard supports 4K, most current ATSC 3.0 broadcasts are 1080p or 720p, which are then upscaled.
Longer channel tuning times: It may take significantly longer for an ATSC 3.0 channel to load compared to a traditional ATSC 1.0 channel.
None of the advertisments state that you need an ATSC 3.0 tuner. The new TV here does recieve ATSC 3.0. None of the HDHomerun boxes I have receive ATSC 3.0.
Weigel Broadcasting was very reluctant to upgrade to ATSC 1.
During the conversion to ATSC 1.0 (digital television), both broadcasters and consumers bore the costs.
Broadcasters paid for new transmission equipment
Television stations were responsible for upgrading their infrastructure, which included purchasing and installing new digital transmitters and antennas.
While there was some federal funding available to help public television stations with this transition, broadcasters generally paid for their own upgrades.
Consumers paid for new receiving equipment
Consumers needed new equipment to receive the digital broadcasts. This was paid for in two ways:
New televisions: Consumers who purchased new television sets after the transition began bought models with built-in digital tuners. The cost of this equipment was reflected in the price of the TV.
Converter boxes: Those who wished to keep their older analog televisions purchased a digital-to-analog converter box. The U.S. government provided a subsidy program to help households purchase these boxes.
Most of the advertisements state that the antennas are ATSC 3.0 (NextGen TV) compatible.
AI Overview:
ATSC 3.0, also known as NextGen TV, is a new standard for over-the-air broadcasting that offers improved picture quality, immersive audio, and more robust signals for both fixed and mobile devices. To watch it, you need a new television with the "NEXTGEN TV" logo or an external tuner, as older ATSC 1.0 TVs cannot decode the new signals. While it promises features like interactive content and advanced emergency alerts, its adoption has been complicated by issues like DRM encryption and patent disputes, which can increase costs and limit functionality like DVR recording.
Key benefits of ATSC 3.0
Better viewing experience: Offers a higher-quality picture, including support for up to 4K, with advanced high dynamic range (HDR) and immersive, multi-dimensional sound like Dolby Atmos.
Improved reception: Provides a more robust signal that is often clearer, with less buffering and fewer dropouts, even in challenging conditions.
Mobile and interactive features: Broadcasts can be received on mobile devices like phones and in cars, and the standard supports interactive content, personalized programming, and advanced emergency alerts.
Integration of content: Aims to combine traditional over-the-air broadcast with on-demand and internet-based content.
What you need to watch ATSC 3.0
A new TV or converter box: Your current ATSC 1.0 TV is not compatible. You must have a newer television with the "NEXTGEN TV" logo or purchase a separate ATSC 3.0 converter box.
An existing antenna: You can use your current over-the-air antenna, as it will work for ATSC 3.0 signals.
Important considerations
DRM encryption: Many broadcasters are using Digital Rights Management (DRM) to encrypt their ATSC 3.0 signals. This can prevent commercial skipping, limit DVR functionality, and even make it impossible to record certain programs.
Cost and compatibility: The need to support DRM can significantly increase the cost of ATSC 3.0-enabled TVs and tuners. Also, fewer devices currently support the necessary software to decode the encrypted channels.
Limited 4K: While the standard supports 4K, most current ATSC 3.0 broadcasts are 1080p or 720p, which are then upscaled.
Longer channel tuning times: It may take significantly longer for an ATSC 3.0 channel to load compared to a traditional ATSC 1.0 channel.
None of the advertisments state that you need an ATSC 3.0 tuner. The new TV here does recieve ATSC 3.0. None of the HDHomerun boxes I have receive ATSC 3.0.
ATSC 3 Update - "High Noon" : A secret broadcaster plan to take over the public airwaves
My sister's father in law and mother in law worked for Weigel Broadcasting. I helped him some switching stuff over to the Amiga Toaster many many years ago. When I toured the station (in the 1990's) most of the equipment being utilized was from the 1960's.Weigel Broadcasting was very reluctant to upgrade to ATSC 1.
During the conversion to ATSC 1.0 (digital television), both broadcasters and consumers bore the costs.
Broadcasters paid for new transmission equipment
Television stations were responsible for upgrading their infrastructure, which included purchasing and installing new digital transmitters and antennas.
While there was some federal funding available to help public television stations with this transition, broadcasters generally paid for their own upgrades.
Consumers paid for new receiving equipment
Consumers needed new equipment to receive the digital broadcasts. This was paid for in two ways:
New televisions: Consumers who purchased new television sets after the transition began bought models with built-in digital tuners. The cost of this equipment was reflected in the price of the TV.
Converter boxes: Those who wished to keep their older analog televisions purchased a digital-to-analog converter box. The U.S. government provided a subsidy program to help households purchase these boxes.
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pete_c
Guru
I adjusted the antenna direction using my phone / HD Homerun APP and added a 10 gauge ground wire.
Signal strengths went up around 20%. Now getting 98 channels from Chicago.
Signal strengths went up around 20%. Now getting 98 channels from Chicago.
| 2.1 CBS2-HD |
| 503.000 MHz |
| 2 |
| 8vsb |
| 81% |
| 100% |
| 100% |
| 5.548 Mbps |
| [2601:243:ce81:25d5:139b:c98e:11f3:b860] |
| 66.6 RetroTV |
| 599.000 MHz |
| 6 |
| 8vsb |
| 79% |
| 100% |
| 100% |
| 0.642 Mbps |
| [2601:243:ce81:25d5:139b:c98e:11f3:b860] |
I need to rescan my local channels using the HDHomeRun tuner I have that DOES support ATSC 3.0. Something I read recently leads me to believe that some of my local channels may have actually started broadcasting in 4k on ATSC 3.0 and since I have a couple of 4k TVs in the house now, it would make sense to see what I can get.
pete_c
Guru
Yeah here have the old HD Homerun tuners. Only one is online.
I would probably see a bit more with a TV direct connect.
HD Homerun Android app runs great on the Sony TV.
I did move the antenna yesterday using the old Android HD app on the roof. Worked well even though its an old version never been upgraded.
Spoke to a buddy yesterday who switched to T-Mobile Internet and went to YouTube TV. He is a happy camper.
I would probably see a bit more with a TV direct connect.
HD Homerun Android app runs great on the Sony TV.
I did move the antenna yesterday using the old Android HD app on the roof. Worked well even though its an old version never been upgraded.
Spoke to a buddy yesterday who switched to T-Mobile Internet and went to YouTube TV. He is a happy camper.
