Lutron RadioRa 2 security mode from HAI Omni Pro

[caraj]

Just installed the radiora 2 in my home and integrated nicely with the HAI omni Pro II system
Everything is working great, the only issue I am having is disabling the "security mode" of the radio ra system.
 
basically I want to flash some lights, turn others on and lockout all switches and keypads in the radio ra2 system and this is how I did it.
 
I created a phantom button in radio ra programming
the button  type is "security mode"
I flash some outside lights and turn other lights on
 
All works great since I created an event in HAI to press the radioRa 2 Phantom button upon the alarm
the problem is how do I turn this phantom button off? Right now I have to reset the radio ra2 main repeater to turn it off
 
Lutron says to send a phantom button release command but I dont see that option in option PC access programming for HAI.
 
Thanks for any assistance!

 

[picta]

What happens if you press the phantom button second time?

 

[caraj]

What happens if you press the phantom button second time?

Thanks for the reply.
Nothing happens.
it is not a "toggle" button it just sends the phantom button into "security mode" a again. 

 

[az1324]

Don't you have to create another phantom button that turns security mode off for those devices?

 

[caraj]

Don't you have to create another phantom button that turns security mode off for those devices?

Yes you would think so. I know in the Lutron home works system it was simple to send this command but in radiora2 essentials software it appears to enable security mode you basically configure a phantom button type as "security mode" then just press the phantom button. I think hai just missed the "phantom button off" command for radiora2 because if I were to choose radiora1 as the interface I see the phantom button off command.
Thanks for your help

 

[picta]

You can try sending a button release message to your RA2 serial port: #DEVICE,4,Button number,4^M^J.
Also you may want to contact HAI and ask to add the command in future release.

 

[caraj]

You can try sending a button release message to your RA2 serial port: #DEVICE,4,Button number,4^M^J.
Also you may want to contact HAI and ask to add the command in future release.

OK thanks very much. I tried this and most liekly I am sending the wrong command since it does not work
In the lutron programming I have phanton button 9 on the main repeater. When I look in the integration settings of radiora I see the main repeater as ID #1
so here is the message I sent out seriial port #1 of the HAI (this is the serial port connected to the radiora
 
THEN SEND 1,4,9,4^M^J OUT SERIAL 1

 

[az1324]

#DEVICE is part of the literal command string don't change it. Change 4 to 1. But sending a button up command is probably not going to do anything.

 

[picta]

Try this exact message: #DEVICE,1,9,4^M^J
 
If it doesn't work that means that HAI is not allowing sending ProLink messages to radioRA interface port.

 

[caraj]

Try this exact message: #DEVICE,1,9,4^M^J
 
If it doesn't work that means that HAI is not allowing sending ProLink messages to radioRA interface port.

Thanks picta for this info.
However it is not working. I did call HAI last week and after 1 hour with their tech support they told me they have no idea how to turn a phantom button off. Sadly they enbaled phantom on/off in the original radiora but not in radiora2.
 
I sent that exact message, but I am wondering what is the "1" in that message for? is it for the serial port or the device id? because if its for the serial port, HAI is already sending to that port here is the exact string
SEND
#DEVICE,1,9,4^M^J
OUT SERIAL 1

 

[picta]

The 1 in the message is for your repeater id, 9 is button number, 4 is release command. If you have another way to send serial message to the repeater, it should work. You can test it from a free serial port program called Windmill (replace ^M^J with a carriage return (ASCII dec 13/hex 0D) and a line feed (ASCII dec 10/hex 0A)). I found that sending prolink messages to HAI ports configured for a specific interface is not always working, but sometimes does. So, you may try to configure your RA2 port as ProLink port and send the message to see if it works.

 

[caraj]

SUCCESS!!
OK here is my workaround since HAI does not provide a phantom button release to send to the radiora 2 main repeater
 
1: Hai relay board connected to the HAI outputs. (since HAI on board outputs only supplies about 13 volts and radiora needs 15)
2: Lutron Radiora 2 Garage door controller. (this has a security input to engage radiora 2 "security mode") connected to the HAI relay board.
 
( I already had both of these items)
 
Simply run a 18-2 wire from the relay board in the HAI cabinet to the radiora garage door controller security flash/full input
Write your programming in HAI to turn on the output when an alarm and turn off output when the alarm is turned off. I also wrote to only turn on the output for 45 minutes.
Works great.