More LED bulb options

signal15

Senior Member
RAM said:
Anyone know of any LED bulbs (60-100 watt equivalent) that are rated to use in an enclosed outdoor fixture. With the sub-zero temps lately the CFL's I'm using look more like night lght bulbs than 75 watt equivalent bulbs.
 
 
I have about 10 of the Cree A19s outside, no problems.  I also have a bunch of Ecosmart Par30s.  At my old house, I had the PAR30s directly exposed to the elements in one of those dual spotlight things.  No problems.
 

tmbrown97

Senior Member
Also just to add to this thread - I have a couple of the Cree 60W Warm Whites in my office - the other day I was doing some testing with my SA dimmer to see just how well they dim - and sure enough, they dim down to 1% - and more importantly, they come back on at 1% - I don't have to ramp up past 1% - they come on just going from 0 to 1%.  Granted - they're a bit brighter than Incandescent even at only 1%...
 

tmbrown97

Senior Member
kwilcox - if you're asking me, no these weren't the TW's - the are the regular Creee Warm White.  I can test on some TW's though easily enough - I have a bunch of those too.
 

jhdale

Active Member
I see the same, but a 1% setting is so much brighter than 1% of the brightness that you still don't get a smooth ramp from off, it visually pops on. The same as other LEDs, it just does it sooner.
 

tmbrown97

Senior Member
Yes - very true.  It has caused us to re-think lighting a little bit in our home, dedicating a couple table lamps for the night-light function vs. just dimming super low.  In the kids' rooms, we use table lamps with lower brighness bulbs just for that purpose.  I also have some rooms like the master bath suite and kitchen where there are a couple circuits - both rooms have a pair of can lights that have fluorescent fixtures - those will soon be converted to LED so I can just dim the middle pair pretty dim and keep the others off.  It's not quite the same as the soft orange glow of having an incandescent down to 10% but it's manageable.  If I really need mood lighting, there's always candles still!
 
In the pretty near future, I actually want to change the kids' table lamps to be Philips Hue bulbs - that way I can change colors and simulate sunset and sunrise colors very gradually over time - with HomeSeer integration I think this will be really cool for them - just wish they were a little cheaper, and direct wifi rather than needing a bridge.
 

ano

Senior Member
The LIFX bulbs are at Best Buy now for $89 each. Still pretty expensive.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/edison-screw-wi-fi-multicolor-dimmable-led-light-bulb-75w-equivalent/2578019.p?id=1219074365264&skuId=2578019&st=lifx&cp=1&lp=1
 
I really like mine and they are very bright, but at this point the only way to control them is a pretty basic app. for iPhone or Android, which is pretty limiting.  I'll need to be able to control them from CQC before I will say they are very useful.  If they can be remotely controlled, that would basically save the cost of having to buy a UPB switch, so the price would be more reasonable. These bulbs are 1000+ lumens, which is much brighter than the ~600 lumen Hue. Also, from the Best Buy web site it says the Hue is only rated for a life of 1500 hours, the LIFX bulb is rated for "up to 40K"
 

signal15

Senior Member
Work2Play said:
Yes - very true.  It has caused us to re-think lighting a little bit in our home, dedicating a couple table lamps for the night-light function vs. just dimming super low.  In the kids' rooms, we use table lamps with lower brighness bulbs just for that purpose.  I also have some rooms like the master bath suite and kitchen where there are a couple circuits - both rooms have a pair of can lights that have fluorescent fixtures - those will soon be converted to LED so I can just dim the middle pair pretty dim and keep the others off.  It's not quite the same as the soft orange glow of having an incandescent down to 10% but it's manageable.  If I really need mood lighting, there's always candles still!
 
In the pretty near future, I actually want to change the kids' table lamps to be Philips Hue bulbs - that way I can change colors and simulate sunset and sunrise colors very gradually over time - with HomeSeer integration I think this will be really cool for them - just wish they were a little cheaper, and direct wifi rather than needing a bridge.
 
 
Best thing I ever did was replace the kid's nightlight with a dark shaded table lamp containing a red CFL (I couldn't find a decent red LED).  They sleep all night now and don't get up.
 

kwilcox

Active Member
I'm not a fan of hue. High CRI only occurs at a few temps. The "touch the sunset color on the picture" feature isn't accurate for this reason. Also, they are very directional. BR30 overhead lighting in a home theater is killer, but I wouldn't use the A19s.
 

kwilcox

Active Member
Ok, so the Cree TWs arrived today and I put them right into our Stickley table lamp that previously was running philips LEDs. Fantastic! These things look and throw light just like incandescents. I was blown away by how much richer the oak wood tones in the lamp itself as well as the table it was on looked. I immediately ordered 4 more.

I'm never going to by a LED with a CRI < 90 again.
 

tmbrown97

Senior Member
Nice!  I have them in a few places - added 4 more 60W TW's last week - they look great.  The wattage trade-off is a bit of a bummer still, it's a fraction of the 60W incandescents they replaced.  I also found that the hum I was getting can be fixture-specific, and can be eliminated by changing the fixture or going to 60W... either one seems to solve the problem.
 

signal15

Senior Member
FYI, Home Depot dropped the price on the T61's from $49 to $34.  
 
I just went back and they did a price adjustment for 20 of them for me.
 

JimS

Senior Member
What are my options for Torch lamps without spending too much?  I have a lamp that has circular florescent bulbs but the ballast has gone out - first one bulb and now the other.  This lamb gets left on all the time so LEDs would be nice and I could dim at night.  Thought about trying to rip the ballast out and retrofit a standard socket or two.  The florescent bulb is 30W.
 

signal15

Senior Member
JimS said:
What are my options for Torch lamps without spending too much?  I have a lamp that has circular florescent bulbs but the ballast has gone out - first one bulb and now the other.  This lamb gets left on all the time so LEDs would be nice and I could dim at night.  Thought about trying to rip the ballast out and retrofit a standard socket or two.  The florescent bulb is 30W.
 
You could do something like this, but would require replacing the ballast:
http://www.amazon.com/Circline-Replacement-Circular-Fluorescent-Equivalent/dp/B003TL1WRC/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt
 
Also, if you had torch lamps that took those little halogen tubes, there are LED replacements for those.  
http://www.amazon.com/FACTOP-760-780lm-85-265V-replacement-Halogen/dp/B00CFFAULC/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1391009504&sr=1-2&keywords=halogen+led+replacement+bulb
 

tmbrown97

Senior Member
Usually with the LED Retrofits for Fluorescent, you have to bypass the ballast anyway so that could be a decent option.  Or depending on the fixture, they may have an incandescent equivalent where you could just swap a part or two.
 
In this house, all 4 bathrooms had the same fan/light combo from Broan which used a 2-pin square fluorescent bulb with a ballast inside the fixture.  They flickered horribly and took a second or two to start, and of course weren't dimmable; so I looked up and found the equivalent fan/light combo in the non fluorescent model and it turned out to be an $8 part that was literally a 20-second install per fixture - no wiring, just plugging in the housing - and now all for are regular Edison Incandescent bases running the Cree 60W TW bulbs and my SA switches were reprogrammed with Dimming enabled - much nicer experience.
 
Or of course, depending on the fixture, it probably wouldn't be that hard to just swap it out with something more efficient.
 
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