outside temp reader

[BraveSirRobbin]

Note Spankster's option three. You can accomplish this with a $23 Winland Mechanical Temp Alert module (I also noticed you said you wanted a "cheap" option in your original post) as long as you can mount it where it will not get rained on (like under a roof overhang, etc...).

Winland also has another product (part number 1014) which will accomplish this task as well.

 

[v1rtu0s1ty]

You have several options for temperature detection with the ELK M1.

1. M1ZTS temperature sensor connects to one of the first 16 zones on the M1.

2. M1KAM module allows for 1 wire temperature sensors connected to the M1.

3. A temperature sensor set for 20F that provides a contact closure connected to the M1.

Write a M1 Rule so that Whenever the temperature sensor's temperature is below 20F, then turn on an output relay connected to your 120VAC device or use a powerline appliance module that can switch 120 VAC. Write another Rule to turn everything off when the temperature warms up.

Awesome!!! I will do some reading again about the appliance module. I remember, some folks here taught me last year how to do it. I think it was X10.

By the way, about option number 3, is it similar to our window contacts?

Thanks again!

 

[v1rtu0s1ty]

Note Spankster's option three. You can accomplish this with a $23 Winland Mechanical Temp Alert module (I also noticed you said you wanted a "cheap" option in your original post) as long as you can mount it where it will not get rained on (like under a roof overhang, etc...).

Winland also has another product (part number 1014) which will accomplish this task as well.

Great! I will look at it later. Thanks for the suggestion too. I really appreciate it.

 

[murphy]

Hi folks,

I need some help again. I am looking for an inexpsive product so I can monitor the temperature outside. I will be using this with a rope light. When temp goes below 20F, I will turn on the rope light via my relay. Oh, I will be wrapping the rope light on a palm tree during winter.

Can someone please help me what what I need?

Thank you so much in advance!

Neil

Hi Neil,

nearly the same problem and I'm using the option with the ELK-M1ZTS after I got no satisfying results with temp-sensors consisting of an simple contact. For me, I found them too unreliable. Here is how I solved this little problem:

Most of my irrigationvalves are underground. Except 3. They are in a wooden box near the house and during the cold season they need protection against freezing. So I put 2 lightbulbs (100W each) in the box and switch them on, if the temp is droping too low. The controll is done by an ELK-Temp sensor (ELK M1 ZTS) at input 9:


9 Outside Temp
Definition: 33 = Temperature
Req Periodic Trip x
Listen In x
Fast Loop Resp x
Type: 2 = Normally Open ¨
Voice Description: Out Side Temperature [Say Number] Degrees [800hz Tone]

This sensor is indicating the outside air-temp. Inside the box there is no temp-sensor. I simply rely on the heating.
And a the relay at output 17 is switching the heatsource. Here are the rules. Very simple:

Temp Management
39 WHENEVER EVERY 120 SECONDS
AND Outside Temp (Zn 9) ACTUAL TEMPERATURE IS LESS THAN 43 DEG. F. (6 DEG. C.)
THEN TURN Box Heating (Out 17) ON

40 WHENEVER EVERY 120 SECONDS
AND Outside Temp (Zn 9) ACTUAL TEMPERATURE IS GREATER THAN 46 DEG. F. (8 DEG. C.)
THEN TURN Box Heating (Out 17) OFF
and

158 WHENEVER EVERY 1 HOUR
AND Box Heating (Out 17) STATE IS ON
THEN ADD 1 TO Heat cpw-t (Counter 31)

159 WHENEVER Box Heating (Out 17) STATE IS TURNED ON
THEN ADD 1 TO Heat-cpw-n (Counter 30)

With the last 2 rules I can see, how many times and how long, the heating was activated by displaying the countervalues on the keypad. During the last 2 winters it worked ok. Sorry, I looked over all my images ... and found only a picture of the closed box with the valves and the bulbs. So I omit the picture here.

 

[fleetz]

You have several options for temperature detection with the ELK M1.

1. M1ZTS temperature sensor connects to one of the first 16 zones on the M1.

2. M1KAM module allows for 1 wire temperature sensors connected to the M1.

3. A temperature sensor set for 20F that provides a contact closure connected to the M1.

Write a M1 Rule so that Whenever the temperature sensor's temperature is below 20F, then turn on an output relay connected to your 120VAC device or use a powerline appliance module that can switch 120 VAC. Write another Rule to turn everything off when the temperature warms up.

Hi Spanky,

This reply has confused the hell out of me which is easily done. I just installted some M1ZTS assuming that you can use the zone temp to trigger an event but found out you can not use a M1ZTS as a trigger. Your post here clearly states that you can use it as a trigger which is what I was lead to believe.

Am I missing something? Not having the temperatures of the M1ZTS to trigger an event based on a temp in rules make the unit as useful as tits on a bull IMO.

Regards,

Fleetz

 

[Dave X10]

The plug-in pipe heater thermostats are quick and easy: http://www.heatersplus.com/wrapon_preset_thermostat.htm

These things are available at you local building supply (Menards's).