Pool temperature into the M1 wirelessly?

[fleetz]

Hi All,

Been a good year or so since I looked into this.

Just wondering if there has been any solution for getting pool temperature into the M1 via wireless?? Ideally from a floating sensor but I know that is wishful think, although Spanky was talking to Oregen Scientific about doing something with them but that has gone quite. The Herd Leader is currently grazing in another paddock on this one.

There was some interesting discussion on this a while back on this thread http://www.cocoontech.com/forums/index.php...amp;#entry93887 be interested in finding out if this lead anywhere.

Failing a floating wireless sensor a wireless TX with a wired temp sensor that could be installed into the pool return 40mm PVC pipe is another alternative however it will only offer a valid temperature while the filter pump is running so the floating wireless solution would be the most attractive as the temperature is also valid and setting rules within M1 become possible.

Didn't know if there is anything available now or on the horizon.

Regards,

Fleetz

 

[electron]

I am looking for the same thing right now, but it isn't looking too good. I'll probably end up running a wired sensor like some other regulars have done.

 

[sic0048]

Please let us know if you find a solution. I'd jump at getting pool temps into my ELK or CQC system. Obviously hardwired is a easy solution. But I'd rather run wireless for ease of installation and to gain a physical break in wiring to prevent lightning strikes from doing more damage than needed.

 

[fleetz]

Hi Dan and Brian,

Thanks for the replies. Yes I agree Brian wireless is the go especially for the lightening issue and of course ease of installation.

Spanky was in discussion a year or so back with Oregon Scientific (OS). I have been trying to flush the Herd Leader out on this one without any joy.....but wouldn't it be great if this pool sensor http://www.oregonscientific.com.au/cat-Wea...rmo-Sensor.html could be interfaced into the M1. Indeed if a particular OS model weather station reciever could be interfaced. How much more powerful would that make the M1 product.

Hope we might get some comment from Spanky.

Regards,

Fleetz

 

[Rupp]

Hi All,

Been a good year or so since I looked into this.

Just wondering if there has been any solution for getting pool temperature into the M1 via wireless?? Ideally from a floating sensor but I know that is wishful think, although Spanky was talking to Oregen Scientific about doing something with them but that has gone quite. The Herd Leader is currently grazing in another paddock on this one.

There was some interesting discussion on this a while back on this thread http://www.cocoontech.com/forums/index.php...amp;#entry93887 be interested in finding out if this lead anywhere.

Failing a floating wireless sensor a wireless TX with a wired temp sensor that could be installed into the pool return 40mm PVC pipe is another alternative however it will only offer a valid temperature while the filter pump is running so the floating wireless solution would be the most attractive as the temperature is also valid and setting rules within M1 become possible.

Didn't know if there is anything available now or on the horizon.

Regards,

Fleetz

I'm not sure if you can connect an RF receiver to the ELK system but a lot of HomeSeer users use the RFXCOM wireless receiver with the floating Oregon Scientific temp sensors with good success. There's a ton of information on the HomeSeer message board about this setup.

 

[jwilson56]

Well I have been looking into adding a RFXCOM USB 433.92MHz receiver to my Girder 5 setup and some Oregen Scientific sensors. Girder 5 supports the RFXCOM and I can then use that information along with the Girder Elk plugin to have it do what I want.

 

[Steve]

I'm not sure if you can connect an RF receiver to the ELK system but a lot of HomeSeer users use the RFXCOM wireless receiver with the floating Oregon Scientific temp sensors with good success. There's a ton of information on the HomeSeer message board about this setup.

Do you have any specific links about this. Yea, yea, I suppose we could search the forum but was wondering if there were a good specific thread about it. Since I thought the OS sensors were proprietray and only talked to their receivers/stations.

 

[Rupp]

I'm not sure if you can connect an RF receiver to the ELK system but a lot of HomeSeer users use the RFXCOM wireless receiver with the floating Oregon Scientific temp sensors with good success. There's a ton of information on the HomeSeer message board about this setup.

Do you have any specific links about this. Yea, yea, I suppose we could search the forum but was wondering if there were a good specific thread about it. Since I thought the OS sensors were proprietray and only talked to their receivers/stations.

Here's the site that sells the hardware receiver with more information.
http://www.rfxcom.com/

 

[fleetz]

I'm not sure if you can connect an RF receiver to the ELK system but a lot of HomeSeer users use the RFXCOM wireless receiver with the floating Oregon Scientific temp sensors with good success. There's a ton of information on the HomeSeer message board about this setup.

Do you have any specific links about this. Yea, yea, I suppose we could search the forum but was wondering if there were a good specific thread about it. Since I thought the OS sensors were proprietray and only talked to their receivers/stations.

Here's the site that sells the hardware receiver with more information.
http://www.rfxcom.com/

Interesting that RFXCOM now supports the floating Oregon Scientific (OS) temp sensor. Bert the President of RFXCOM offerred ELK assistance to integrate their product with theirs nearly a couple of years back. Obviuosly nothing come of it.

RFXCOM have USB, LAN RX's indeed with RS-232 option on some of their modules so the opportunity is there to implement not only water temp but humidity and temp using OS's weather sensors. RFXCOM are very resonably priced product and appear to backed up professionally and would add the missing link that many of us have been screaming for for a number of years.

It may be possible to send a serial ascii string to a XSP with a temp from a RFXCOM RX which is communication to a OS pool sensor, need to drill down on the serial protocol from RFXCOM. I am about to ask them the question of RFXCOM.

The door is ajar!

Regards,

Fleetz

 

[Rupp]

I'm not sure if you can connect an RF receiver to the ELK system but a lot of HomeSeer users use the RFXCOM wireless receiver with the floating Oregon Scientific temp sensors with good success. There's a ton of information on the HomeSeer message board about this setup.

Do you have any specific links about this. Yea, yea, I suppose we could search the forum but was wondering if there were a good specific thread about it. Since I thought the OS sensors were proprietray and only talked to their receivers/stations.

Here's the site that sells the hardware receiver with more information.
http://www.rfxcom.com/

Interesting that RFXCOM now supports the floating Oregon Scientific (OS) temp sensor. Bert the President of RFXCOM offerred ELK assistance to integrate their product with theirs nearly a couple of years back. Obviuosly nothing come of it.

RFXCOM have USB, LAN RX's indeed with RS-232 option on some of their modules so the opportunity is there to implement not only water temp but humidity and temp using OS's weather sensors. RFXCOM are very resonably priced product and appear to backed up professionally and would add the missing link that many of us have been screaming for for a number of years.

It may be possible to send a serial ascii string to a XSP with a temp from a RFXCOM RX which is communication to a OS pool sensor, need to drill down on the serial protocol from RFXCOM. I am about to ask them the question of RFXCOM.

The door is ajar!

Regards,

Fleetz

Yep, Bert is an excellent guy to work with and it is nice to be able to wirelessly monitory temps and especially humidity wirelessly. I use these in the bathrooms in my house to automatically start and stop the ventilation fans in the shower areas. The RFXCom hardware also works with devices such as wireless scales, tooth brushes and many other devices.

 

[fleetz]

Here is the reply from RFXCOM which came back within and hour!

I have family staying with us at the moment so have not been able to fully investigate Bert's reply.....thought I would get it up so others can look into it too. I assume that the W800 refers to is the X-10 RF gear .....not had anything to do with this as have gone C-Bus here.

Anyway Bert's reply as follows...he puts forth some options....how they can be integrated into the M1 is the question....Bert's reply follows:


Hi Ian,

There are two types of interfaces; USB with a Virtual COM Port driver and TCP/IP. RS232 is no longer available.

The interface protocol is very simple as there are only initializing commands and after that the receiver transmits all RF data received to the interface. All communication is in hex format with packet lengths up to 127 bytes. No ASCII

The THWR288 protocol is available to developer under NDA. (Note from Ian this refers to asking RFXCOM about the non A version of the THWR288 which is what I have here in Australia...since found out that OS only make the one version being 433MHz with the same 2.1 OS protocol)

Another option is probably an RFXSensor with a 60014 watertight sensor connected. The RFXSensor can also be received by a W800 because it transmits only 32 bits RF packets. There are 310MHz and 433.92MHz RFXsensors available.

www.rfxcom.com/sensors.htm#RFXSensor

The 32 bits protocol is described in chapter 10 of the RFXSensor pdf www.rfxcom.com/documents/RFXSensor.pdf

The RFXSensor is an RF device with build in temperature sensor and optionally a humidity sensor. And it has a connector for up to 7 external wired sensors.

www.rfxcom.com/sensors.htm#Additional

Best regards, Bert

ends

Be interested in what others make of it...

Regards,

Fleetz

 

[sic0048]

Well I have a W800, so perhaps that temp sensor may be the answer for me.

 

[fleetz]

Well I have a W800, so perhaps that temp sensor may be the answer for me.

Hi Brian,

Be interested in how you would implement the W800 with the RFXCOM gear. Not being familiar with the W800 how would you be able to get the sent data from the RFXCOM gear to write a rule in the M1?

Just be nice to get up to speed quickly on the W800 with experienced users. Are you thinking Oregon Scienctic THWR288 > RFXCOM Sensor > W800???? What are you able to do with the W800 and the M1??? How would temp data get into the M1 from the W800?

Be interested on your thoughts.

Cheers,

Fleetz

 

[Rupp]

Well I have a W800, so perhaps that temp sensor may be the answer for me.

Just be nice to get up to speed quickly on the W800 with experienced users. Are you thinking Oregon Scienctic THWR288 > RFXCOM Sensor > W800???? What are you able to do with the W800 and the M1??? How would temp data get into the M1 from the W800?

The RFXCom hardware is a relacment for the W800 hardware. They are both RF receivers. The RFXCom can be equiped with European frequencies as well as American frequencies allowing it to interface with many more devices such as the Oregon Scientific hardware. As an example HomeSeer users connect the RFXcom hardware to their HomeSeer server then load the RFXcom plugin to interface with the hardware. They inturn load the Elk plugin to interface with the ELK hardware. Now the changes in the RFXcom hardware can be seen by the ELK hardware.

 

[mustangcoupe]

As an example HomeSeer users connect the RFXcom hardware to their HomeSeer server then load the RFXcom plugin to interface with the hardware. They inturn load the Elk plugin to interface with the ELK hardware. Now the changes in the RFXcom hardware can be seen by the ELK hardware.

How are you "letting the elk see the changes"? Are you updating a value or counter or something remotely rupp? please give me the layout and comm config of what you are proposing for the OP...