Problems with 2nd ELK M1-KP2

[biggiantdeadbeat]

I'm trying to install an ELK M1 system in my house. The first KP2 that I installed works perfectly. The second one is giving me problems. When I set the address, the screen changes to "KP->2 Lost Comm".I can't even get to the menus to enroll it. I swapped the keypads, and the first keypad works from both locations, but the second one doesn't work from either location. So, I think we can rule out wiring problems. I have a home run for each keypad. So, I have termination jumpers on both keypads. I tried connecting with ELKRP to un-enroll or delete the second keypad from the system, but there was only one keypad listed... the first one. I was able to communicate with the first one from both installation locations and change info (like the name of the keypad, etc.). Do I have a bad KP2? or is there something I'm missing?

 

[wuench]

So you can't set the address (2), then go to the first keypad and start enrollment? If I remember right you can't enroll from the keypad you are trying to enroll itself unless it is address 1 so that only works for the first keypad you install.

 

[biggiantdeadbeat]

Thanks wuench!! I wish I posted a couple hours ago. ...worked like a charm. I don't remember reading that in the manual, but I'm sure I just missed it. Thanks again.

 

[newalarm]

I had a similar problem, but resolved it by Wuench's suggestion. My question is, can you not enroll a keypad from RP? I was trying to set it up from RP and kept getting the Lost Comm message.

 

[wuench]

I think you can, but I think enrollment knocks the bus and M1XEP offline. So it is safest to do it from a keypad. That's the way I always do it.

 

[newalarm]

Good to know. Thanks.

 

[KenN]

I had similar problems with enrolling my second keypad. I managed (after several tries) to unenroll everything and re-enroll so both keypads were found, and I did it all via RP software.

I can't preach enough about the virtues of bench testing. Setting up the system on the kitchen table for a couple of days while I played around, added one component at a time (base system, then keypad, then XEP etc etc) meant learning in controlled steps and not having to run around the house multiple laps to push buttons and read displays.

 

[newalarm]

I would be sleeping on the couch if i set up on the kitchen table I did some bench testing too, but got to a point that I need real situations to test things out. I just never connected second KP.

Running up and down the steps has been a killer. I actually thought about setting up a temporary remote controlled switch to just push a button to kill power to control. I guess i would also need to disconnect the battery. I bought this little gadget at the end of Christmas season. works great.

 

[chrisexv6]

I had similar problems with enrolling my second keypad. I managed (after several tries) to unenroll everything and re-enroll so both keypads were found, and I did it all via RP software.

I can't preach enough about the virtues of bench testing. Setting up the system on the kitchen table for a couple of days while I played around, added one component at a time (base system, then keypad, then XEP etc etc) meant learning in controlled steps and not having to run around the house multiple laps to push buttons and read displays.

I did too, but just like newalarm said, I didnt hook up more than one keypad. I hooked up what I thought I could have installed based on what limited time I get to work on it. Didnt want to setup a keypad and then not have it wired in and have the system complain about that.

On the good side, I too did a lot of running up and down stairs. Maybe I lost some weight in the process

 

[wuench]

Yeah, bench testing takes all the fun out of it. Wait until you have to program a custom sound and you are balancing a laptop and a phone next to a keypad and trying to time the recording perfectly...

 

[Del91574]

Address the hardware first, then enrollment can be done via RP.

 

[tmbrown97]

Yeah, bench testing takes all the fun out of it. Wait until you have to program a custom sound and you are balancing a laptop and a phone next to a keypad and trying to time the recording perfectly...

Not to go OT, but how do the custom sounds work for you?

I went with an Elk124 for a lot of my custom sounds, but I've considered trying to mimick the chick's voice as closely as possible to add alerts with my kids' names or other sounds that can be incorporated with the normal announcements.