All off - Scene execution

asnopek

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Hello,
I pressed all off by using the key pad "4 then 0". 
When I do, I get the following scenes executing (enclosed image).
Does anyone know where do I go to edit this list (upstart, pcaccess)?
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Go to the units setup in PCA and there is a columns titled "Enable All On" and "Enable All Off".  If you set the column to No, it will not send the room Off command.
 
The HAI executes the "ALL ON" and "ALL OFF" commands by room. 
You select the paired rooms you want to respond to the ALL commands in PCAccess (i.e. Rooms 1 and 2, 3 and 4, 5 and 6, etc. are linked, if you select one of them to respond, the other is automatically selected).
The HAI uses the HLC Room ON/OFF commands to execute the "ALL ON/OFF" commands.
When the ALL ON/OFF command is issued it steps through the rooms selected in PCAccess.
It sends the appropriate Room ON/OFF command, then updates the status of all the units in that room, then moves on to the next room.
For a large install it can take several minutes to step through all of the rooms and units.
 
Desert_AIP said:
For a large install it can take several minutes to step through all of the rooms and units.
 
In addition to it taking some time, you'll see each room go off one at a time - which to me is annoying.  I've created a few links in my house for "All Lights - Outside", "All Lights - Downstairs" and "All Lights - Upstairs".  Because the HLC/UPB devices can have up to 16 links assigned to them, I add these extra links and trigger them as needed to shut off all the lights.  With this method, all the lights will go off at once.
 
I use this method as well.
 
In PCAccess:
 
WHEN ALL ON
    THEN All On ON //Send UPB Link "All On"
 
WHEN ALL OFF
    THEN All Off ON //Send UPB Link "All Off"
 
When The HAI is commanded to perform ALL ON or ALL OFF it transmit the links.
That way the lights all respond simultaneously, then the HAI comes in behind them and does the update routine.
The HAI still send the Room ON or OFF command but since the lights are already On or Off it appears as if nothing is happening.
 
 

Desert_AIP said:
I use this method as well.
 
In PCAccess:
 
WHEN ALL ON
    THEN All On ON //Send UPB Link "All On"
 
WHEN ALL OFF
    THEN All Off ON //Send UPB Link "All Off"
 
When The HAI is commanded to perform ALL ON or ALL OFF it transmit the links.
That way the lights all respond simultaneously, then the HAI comes in behind them and does the update routine.
The HAI still send the Room ON or OFF command but since the lights are already On or Off it appears as if nothing is happening.
You don't actually need two links.
 
Set one link as "All On". I use link 225 since it falls outside of HLC links.
 Then the programming is 
 
WHEN ALL ON
    THEN All On ON
 
WHEN ALL OFF
    THEN All On Off
 
If you add an "All Off" link and send it, does the Omni know that all the lights are off?  Do you have to add an All Off in the room and house controllers also to turn any buttons off as well? 
 
ano said:
If you add an "All Off" link and send it, does the Omni know that all the lights are off?  Do you have to add an All Off in the room and house controllers also to turn any buttons off as well? 
 
The OmniPro will update the status, but it will take a few seconds as it polls each room.  When devices are set to "report status", that is sufficient to trigger the OmniPro to go query all devices in the room of any device that did report its status.
 
Frunple said:
 


You don't actually need two links.
 
Set one link as "All On". I use link 225 since it falls outside of HLC links.
 Then the programming is 
 
WHEN ALL ON
    THEN All On ON
 
WHEN ALL OFF
    THEN All On Off
You are correct
I actually use that method
 
ano said:
If you add an "All Off" link and send it, does the Omni know that all the lights are off?  Do you have to add an All Off in the room and house controllers also to turn any buttons off as well? 
Yes

The link you create makes all the lights respond simultaneously, but sending the Omni ALL ON or ALL OFF starts the internal Omni routine.
So as I tried to explain above, the link executes, the lights respond, THEN the Omni sends the individual room on or off commands followed by their status updates.
It won't appear as if anything is happening since the lights are already on or off, but the Omni is sending the room on or off commands and status update requests to each room.
You can see all this activity in the UPStart log.

You will have to use UPStart to add the All On or Off links to the switches for them to respond.
 
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