Best deal on RG59+connectors+crimper (CCTV)?
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WayneW
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For casual use, I have been very happy with the ~$15-$20 compression tool from Home Depot. It is a Paladin DataShark 70014. I cannot find it on the HD website, but I think I still saw it in the store recently. Here is the item http://www.altex.com/%2FPaladin-Compressio...14-P143521.aspx I just use the F connectors that HD sells next to it and use cheap adapters if you want RCA or BNC.
AutomatedOutlet
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Double bubble is really the best way to go....
FYI, I ended up buying RG6QS instead of RG59, since technically I can't find a reason why RG59 is better for CCTV. Home Depot sells 500' RG6QS for around $65, while Lowes sells 250' for around $59. HD no longer carries Paladin (they have a deal with Klein now, which isn't a bad brand, just expensive), so I just bought a cheap $14 IDEAL compression crimper (haven't tried it yet).
Most RG-59 has a solid copper core while most RG-6 is copper coated aluminum. That is the biggest difference, but again, that is only generalizations and it all depends on what you actual got.
The compression tool should work fine, but it is a "one size only" tool. I started out with something similar and then realized I needed to compress other size/type connectors and ended up buying a Paladin 1550 "Universal" compression tool.
The compression tool should work fine, but it is a "one size only" tool. I started out with something similar and then realized I needed to compress other size/type connectors and ended up buying a Paladin 1550 "Universal" compression tool.
Neurorad
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IIRC, Paladin has Pro and Basic compression tools - anyone know if it's worth it for the Pro? AO sells both.
I thought DataShark and Paladin were 2 separate companies.
Klein generally has quality tools, I've been pleased with their basic hand tools (Linesman pliers especially). Didn't know they had compression tools, too.
I'll replace my crimper with a compression tool - didn't know there was a difference when I bought it 2 years ago, but I guess it served it's purpose for a single use, relocating my modem. I recently tested the crimped RG6 connection manually - I yanked on it. Didn't come off, but I have 4 dozen connections to make, for my patch panel relocation project. B)
I thought DataShark and Paladin were 2 separate companies.
Klein generally has quality tools, I've been pleased with their basic hand tools (Linesman pliers especially). Didn't know they had compression tools, too.
I'll replace my crimper with a compression tool - didn't know there was a difference when I bought it 2 years ago, but I guess it served it's purpose for a single use, relocating my modem. I recently tested the crimped RG6 connection manually - I yanked on it. Didn't come off, but I have 4 dozen connections to make, for my patch panel relocation project. B)
drvnbysound
Senior Member
Just curious why anyone would terminate coax cable for a camera with a F-type connector, and add an adapter (another failure point) vs. simply using a compression BNC?
beelzerob
Senior Member
I can understand why, as it's probably what I'd do. In my mind, kind of the same thing as running everything to a patch panel instead of running it directly to the device it's going to connect to...for convenience. Crimp-on f-connectors are pretty cheap and easy to get in big batches, and then it's pretty versatile for no matter what you connect to the end of it. It's kind of the base-connector type. Then if he goes some day and replaces the camera with one that has a composite video/RCA output instead of BNC, then he just needs to swap the adapter, not cut/recrimp a new one on.
I'm not saying it's the perfect way, but I understand why someone would do that, and why I do it too.
I'm not saying it's the perfect way, but I understand why someone would do that, and why I do it too.
drvnbysound
Senior Member
I suppose I can see that in a patch panel - but there are BNC patch panels as well, and I dont really see another use for a coaxial cable that runs to the exterior of your house, particularly like to your soffit area. I suppose you could put a LCD out there for your neighbors to watch B)
Note that you can get compression BNC in bulk (Ive got quite a few quotes locally from electrical supply stores) and that there are plenty of adapters for BNC as well, such as BNC to RCA. Personally, if I had to change the connection type due to a different camera, I'd probably change the connection anyway - mainly due to the fact that outdoor connectors usually collect a fair amount of corrosion.
To each their own, I was just curious
Note that you can get compression BNC in bulk (Ive got quite a few quotes locally from electrical supply stores) and that there are plenty of adapters for BNC as well, such as BNC to RCA. Personally, if I had to change the connection type due to a different camera, I'd probably change the connection anyway - mainly due to the fact that outdoor connectors usually collect a fair amount of corrosion.
To each their own, I was just curious
Sandpiper
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I have always heard that it is very important to have the braided copper shield that RG59 has versus the aluminum foil shield that RG6 has. I don't have a technical explanation, but have been warned in several training classes that I have attended on the subject. I have never tried the RG6, wondered why, but never decided to take a chance on it.
I have been told the same thing as well, RG59 should be used for CCTV. However, on paper, I can't see why, RG6 is superior in every sense, and even REAL engineers in this field don't see a reason why RG59 would be better. Maybe I missed something, but I guess I'll find out the hard way. I can use the RG6 for TV drops anyways, but considering how much cheaper RG6 is, I'll give it a try.
As for the BNC connector question, I didn't think of it. I do plan on terminating them in a can, but I'll have to check out and see how much the BNC compression connectors cost.
As for the BNC connector question, I didn't think of it. I do plan on terminating them in a can, but I'll have to check out and see how much the BNC compression connectors cost.
