Driveway Alarm Help

That series (there are several that differ only in cable length) provides an output that is a relay contact closure. You should be able to interface it to almost anything. I am not familiar with the Elk specifically, but you could hook this to the zone input of alarm panels.
 
Here is a Cartell you tube centric video.
 
[youtube]http://youtu.be/4lKcO4ldOL0[/youtube]
 
You can add to the driveway sensing stuff if you want using outdoor fore and aft PIR sensors, geophone, fore and aft CCTV and RFID  (and the Cartell sensor(s)) under your driveway) on your vehicles for the almost or closer sure bet of the absolute using your Elk M1 panel.
 
lurlette said:
Can a mighty Mule FM 141 work? And can I just connect it to my Elk M1 zone?Thanks
Buyer beware. You get what you pay for.
 
Hooking a buried probe directly to the panel is a recipe to bring lightning or transients straight into the panel. Not what I'd recommend, but to each their own.
 
My Cartell stuff here is not plugged in to the Omni Pro panel directly rather it is plugged in indirectly. 
 
All of this stuff is in the installation manual and I would assume the installer would mention this stuff if wanting to connect it to the M1 panel.
 
lurlette said:
Can a mighty Mule FM 141 work? And can I just connect it to my Elk M1 zone?Thanks
To answer your question; yes, it will work with the Elk to trigger a zone when a vehicle drives near it. But as DEL pointed out, there can be issues to doing so. Just so you know.
 
One more thing I need some advise on is, the distance between driveway on each side, my neighbour on right is approx.5 feet and neighbour left is approx. 10 feet, so I will bury it on the left ,but is it possible to put some kind of a barrier so it wouldn't detect my neighbour's car, like some foil on the left of the sensor,?Thanks. Can you guys give me some ways as to how to install the sensor indirectly.
 
Relating to LV (low voltage outdoor cabling) attention should always be given to a what if (lightning).  I lost my irrigation controllers over 10 years ago due to lightning.
 
so I will bury it on the left ,but is it possible to put some kind of a barrier so it wouldn't detect my neighbour's car, like some foil on the left of the sensor,?
 
No.  5 and 10 feet is close but if you are building a new driveway then the middle of the driveway should work fine.  Have a look at the installation instructions for burial of the Cartell sensor. 
 
Do a google picture of just your driveway / garage and post it here if you want.
 
Here driveway is approximately 40 feet wide but approximately 80 feet long and I am using two Cartell sensors.
 
A bit blurry picture from GMaps.  Note here have multiple chases on both sides of the driveway for just about anything and everything (both utilized today). 
 
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I haven't seen any pricing on the Cartell stuff. Apparently it isn't a DIY install but requires a dealer installation. Can anyone confirm that?
 
The cheap unit does NOT have adjustment and to do so, you'll need to buy other items and hope for the best. Also doesn't offer retrigger holdoff times or other items. Remember what it's intended for, free egress control to a gate, not annunciation purposes.
 
In your application, you NEED to put it in the center of the drive and have sensitivity adjustments. The $40 unit ain't gonna cut it my friend.
 
JimS said:
I haven't seen any pricing on the Cartell stuff. Apparently it isn't a DIY install but requires a dealer installation. Can anyone confirm that?
I'm a dealer, so yes, it's true, they won't technically sell to an end user directly, but there's plenty of resellers out there. Just like Elk or HAI.......you don't buy through the trade distribution as a DIY and don't necessarily expect support, so you'd need to go third party distribution.
 
So you sell Cartell and think its the best - no problem with that. Not sure where you got the $40 figure. The one I am referring to costs about $130 for the 50' cable version and more for longer cables. I agree it doesn't have any timing adjustments but for many applications that isn't needed. The cartel has an additional relay in the control box so that offers a bit of isolation from lightening. That could easily be done with other probes by the installer but would need a few extra parts.

For anyone interested heres a link to a Cartell manual: http://cartell.com/pdf/manuals/ct2b_m.pdf
 
Here I was picky about the landscaping and showed my landscaper how not to damage the landscaping while excavating for lines.
 
I paid the landscaping company for their time even though some lines took up to a week 8 hours a day X 3-4 days.
 
Lost a 40 foot tree a few years back and I wanted a new tree in the same spot.  I spend some time hand picking the tree.  It took the landscaper some 4 days to clean up a bit of the roots and dig some 5 feet down for the new baby tree.  It simple manual labor but difficult because it was in the summer and temperatures were mostly in the 90's when I needed the tree replaced and it was going to happen no matter what.
 
Funny too it took 5-6 months here for CC to bury a cable they put in to replace the old 15 year old cable mostly relating to me wanting it done right.
 
One truck and one person did it in some 60 minutes.  It was a person that knew what he was doing.
 
Back in the 1990's in the old house put in a BUG in the back of the property XX feet from the house entrance and did try to subcontract somebody to bury the lines and never find find anybody to do it so I then did it myself.  It was time consuming but not difficult.
 
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