Elk Navigator Menu Issue

[BraveSirRobbin]

I recently installed an Elk Navigator touch screen. It's a nice unit but one glaring problem is the menu for the lighting controls. It's bad enough it is several clicks away from the main screen, but I noticed that ALL of the X-10 devices are displayed as line items, even the ones I did not select to "view" (the ones not selected are just grayed out and not eliminated).

This is a huge WAF problem for me (only reason I bought this thing) because I use the first part of house code A, then switch to C. You have to scroll through the lower half of the A house code, then all of the B house code just viewing 'grayed' out selections, before getting to the desired C house code menu.

What exacerbates this problem is the slide menu select on the right isn't all that great for navigation.

Is there any way to completely eliminate the unused lighting from being viewed? It takes so long to select a light that she will just walk over and use the switch in the other room (sacrilege )!

Of course, I may be doing something wrong in the setup, but I did NOT check the view checkbox in the Elk Setup Software (for the lighting house/unit codes not being used) and then did a 'sync' of the Navigator. I will explore the 'tasks' options, but just wondered if this could be fixed before trying to go an alternate route.

 

[gatchel]

I noticed this too. Fortunately I only have a few lighting "ISY Scenes" linked to the Elk so all of my lighting controls are pushed to the beginning of the list. If I page past the last active device, the list continues like you mentioned. I guess the NAV just takes a "dump" from the elk and doesn't care what's valid or not.

If it helps any, when you go into the lighting control screen where your devices are listed, there is a white rectangular box on the right side of the screen. If you touch in this box the lighting numbers will jump proportionally to where you touch. This may help your dilemma if you havent noticed this (I assume you did but just thought I'd mention it)

I would think that there would be a way to customize what is shown in the NAV but not just yet I guess. I guess Elk can add this to the "make the system better" list for future updates of the firmware.

OR they could post their suggestion here in the forum for all to enjoy!

 

[ddennerline]

Are you saying that the ElkRP “show” button choice is not honored by Navigator? The KP1 skips over un-configured lights when using the automation sub-menu. If theNavigator lighting screen shows all 256 choices, this seems like a glaring oversight. I would have expected that only configured items are shown. In addition, the UI would benefit from a priority/most-often-used ranking per-keypad. Should you have to scroll all the way to end of list to turn off a light that is 20 feet away from you? This is one of the major reasons to choose a touch screen over fixed-button device; the menu layout should have some flexibility.

 

[gatchel]

There is a seroius difference in price between a touchscreen and the NAV. Since it is new I am not going to tear it apart just yet.

It is a disappointment to not see any feedback from people "in the know" here that much, anymore. Hopefully this means that good things are coming...

 

[thill]

Anybody notice the button labeled Single View under the Tasks, Lighting, and Outputs menus? Pressing this button causes Navigator to display 1 item at a time, and it filters out items that are not set for show the same way a regular keypad behaves. The Multi View allows as many items as will fit on the screen to be displayed at once, but it doesn't filter out the non show items.

 

[BraveSirRobbin]

Are you saying that the ElkRP “show” button choice is not honored by Navigator? The KP1 skips over un-configured lights when using the automation sub-menu. If theNavigator lighting screen shows all 256 choices, this seems like a glaring oversight. I would have expected that only configured items are shown. In addition, the UI would benefit from a priority/most-often-used ranking per-keypad. Should you have to scroll all the way to end of list to turn off a light that is 20 feet away from you? This is one of the major reasons to choose a touch screen over fixed-button device; the menu layout should have some flexibility.

Yes and No. ALL 256 X-10 House and Unit codes are shown ALL the time. The only thing the 'show' selection does is determine if a house/unit code is grayed out or not. What it needs is to be eliminated when the show button is not checked. This way I don't have a big gap going from A code to C code of just grayed out "B" code as I don't use that house code at all.

 

[Spanky]

Thanks for the input. We will add it to the To-Do List.