jmorris644
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What zone type would I use for my garage doors so that I cannot set the alarm without them being closed yet I do not want an alarm to sound when I come home and open one of them.
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Joe
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Joe
Garage Door Zone Type
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Desert_AIP
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I use entry 4x delay
Make sure auto bypass is off, and then you can't arm the system with any zone insecure.
Make sure auto bypass is off, and then you can't arm the system with any zone insecure.
jmorris644
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I assume the alarm sounds but I get 4 times the amount of time to disable it? If so, I am not sure the wife will like that very much. She would have to leave the grandchild unattended in the car while she was turning the alarm off.
You can always use a keyfob for arming/disarming and put a status LED in the garage.
apostolakisl
Senior Member
What the heck is the 4x thing? I can't say I've seen that option anywhere.
I use Burglar Entry 2 with the delay set at the max (255).
But, like JonW, I use a keyfob to disarm. The same button press also opens the door.
I use Burglar Entry 2 with the delay set at the max (255).
But, like JonW, I use a keyfob to disarm. The same button press also opens the door.
Get a keyfob. We could never live without those. It as four buttons so you can arm Night, Away, Off, and Panic. I have a Betabrite LED sign that says ARMED or DISARMED, but an LED or even flashing the garage light will work. Just push a button when leaving or arriving and your problem is solved.
apostolakisl
Senior Member
Ha! Yes, of course. Man I was like what the heck is that 4x thing! But anyway, keyfob is real nice.
I also bought a homelink compatible receiver. When I get around to it, my plan is to hook it to a zone and write rules for it to control the alarm. This way I can use the buttons built-in to the car. I am quite certain you could do the same thing with HAI.
One thing to consider. If you are less than thrilled about having a keyfob disarm your system since it could get into the wrong hands, you can instead have the keyfob (or homelink button) bypass the garage door instead of disarming. I believe that you can do that with HAI the same as Elk.
tmbrown97
Senior Member
Sounds familiar - I think someone wrote an article about that 
Although, IIR, didn't you find a multi-channel receiver?
I have a moral problem with enabling a security system to be disarmed by a button or keyfob even - I prefer my system to require knowledge that only exists in someone's head or at least the physical person to be present. I have done some testing with biometrics on my M1 but it's not all fine tuned just yet so I haven't posted anything... Having kids though, I can certainly appreciate the desire!
Although, IIR, didn't you find a multi-channel receiver?I have a moral problem with enabling a security system to be disarmed by a button or keyfob even - I prefer my system to require knowledge that only exists in someone's head or at least the physical person to be present. I have done some testing with biometrics on my M1 but it's not all fine tuned just yet so I haven't posted anything... Having kids though, I can certainly appreciate the desire!
Since a keyfob only goes about 60 feet, you do physically need to be there to disarm it. If your real paranoid, most keyfobs have four buttons, so you can create a secret password using any sequence of keypresses you want using those four keys. If you are even more parinoid, you can add extra requirements, like for example your garage door has to be open to deactivate the alarm.
tmbrown97
Senior Member
To be fair, that means the keyfob needs to physically be there - not necessarily me or my wife. I worry about someone stopping my wife on her way back from the mailbox (4 houses down) and grabbing her keys eliminating her ability to use the duress code; things like that. There are some other concerns with how we store/treat our keys but I'll skip posting that on the web ;-)
apostolakisl
Senior Member
As I mentioned, the concern with keyfob being stolen can be mitigated by having the "disarm" button only bypass the garage overhead. So a stolen keyfob would only allow the person free access to the garage (assuming you alarmed the house/garage door). You could also set the bypass to automatically unbypass after 5 or 10 minutes or so. A siren chirp or light blink could coincide with that as a warning. Basically, it would be like a super long entry delay.
Now, I don't have HAI, but I am pretty sure you can do all those things just like in Elk.
Now, I don't have HAI, but I am pretty sure you can do all those things just like in Elk.
It may require further testing, but I'm pretty sure with both panels that you will not be able to bypass a zone via software while the panel is armed.
The workaround I can see is to put the OHD on it's own partition and then write rules or events to drive it arming by following the main area being armed, with disarm only functioning on that single point.
Irregardless, for security purposes, a fob is inherently insecure, as work alluded to.
The workaround I can see is to put the OHD on it's own partition and then write rules or events to drive it arming by following the main area being armed, with disarm only functioning on that single point.
Irregardless, for security purposes, a fob is inherently insecure, as work alluded to.
jmorris644
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Maybe the answer is through programming when I set the alarm. Can I check the status of the garage doors when I am arming the system and if one is open, abort the alarm set and issue a message?
