Has anyone tried both of these? Which one was better? If I don't have any other Zwave stuff can I just get the lock and one of these Aeon Z-Stick S2 things and that's it or do I need anything else?
Thanks
It would be in the basement pretty much directly below the door. Hopefully there is enough range.
I havent tried both, but I do have the Kwikset deadbolts. I weighted the options of both, and found that I liked the idea of being able to actually lock/unlock remotely vs. relying on someone to be present to lock/unlock.
As far as connectivity, like any wireless device, Zwave does have range limitations and construction materials (wall construction: wood w/ drywall vs brick, tile, or concrete... as well as if you have plastic or metal j-boxes) will change the effective range of said devices. I assume that it's unlikely that you would be able to get away with the setup you describe, unless you have a PC that you plan to use the Aeon stick on in close proximity to the door(s).
I agree, I don't think they either one is "better" but really how your preference of how the mechanism reacts to you. I chose the Schlage as it DOES require someone there to turn the bolt. One thing I never thought of was if the house shifts, the lock might not line up perfectly. If that is the case, the powered bolt won't engage anyhow. I don't PLAN for this house to shift, but had a house where that was an issue, so it hit home with me. I do see the NEWER (read: might not be out yet) Kwickset locks look like they have a tapered bolt. That looks great as it will engage as much as it can.
Looking at HOW the key goes in, at least in my head, I think it would be MUCH harder to "bump" the Schlage lock, as one would need to get too many things lined up "just" right to key-bump it. When I operate the system with a key (tested it, I've actually not used keys since the day after it was installed), you have to turn the key and push in. It's not like a "quick" bump would allow you to easily do this. After you get the "brass" key hole area to push in, you then have to continue turning the key until the mechanism engages. After that, you then have to turn the bolt slide. It's really not that hard with a real key, and from text sounds harder than it is, as with a real key, the whole thing just turns and engages in a normal fashion, with the added motion of pushing in.
So, I guess, that made me feel better, that it became harder for someone to bump my front bolt.
--Dan
the idea came from the video posted from CES. The video made a big deal about it, so I thought it was new. I stand corrected.
I personally don't allow "service" people into my home if I am not home. So, that is a non-issue for me.
--Dan
As a locksmith and security installer I think the Schlage Lever lock vs. the deadbolt provides a little better security since it has a spring latchbolt. At least if the door is physically closed it can self lock. The debate over motorized deadbolt vs. non-motorized will continue. All the issues are valid: If the door doesn't line up the bolt may not extend even if it's tapered. Of course the non-motorized deadbolt doesn't even provide that possibility. So without a self locking spring latch bolt your door could be totally unsecure. I've heard many stories where someone armed their security system but later discovered they didn't physically have their door(s) locked!I don't have any either, but that was really just one instance of a scenario. It certainly holds true for anyone who could enter your home while you are away, such as other family members... I have no idea what the circumstance would be for someone to need access to my home while I am not there, but I like the idea that I can lock the door back if someone was irresponsible and forgot to do it.