More INSTEON quality control issues!
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I'm also making a list on my site: http://www.madreporite.com/insteon/Insteon_device_list.htm
There are notes at the bottom of the page about how to get all the relevant information to fill in the table, if people with Insteon devices are interested in contributing.
There are notes at the bottom of the page about how to get all the relevant information to fill in the table, if people with Insteon devices are interested in contributing.
Herdfan,
I am an electrical contractor with a degree in electronics and I have specialized in Home Automation. I have done large home and installs with just this type of product for 13 years now and for most of it I have been very happy as will as the client with the out come. So at least there is one professional installer that has had a success story with Smarthomepro.
I have nothing against integrators that are installing 100K lighting systems but for most of my career I chose a blue-collar approach to my installs and it worked out very well for me.
I would agree with you about the second and third unpaid trip, fortunately that has not been my experience. I have multiple 10,000 sqft plus install that have never had a product go bad yet so I have continued to be a believer.
This does not mean that I have not had any failures but they have been few and far between.
SteveL
IRLinc Yes on i2 but they do not use extended messages
In-LineLinc Yes on both dimmer and relay
OutletLinc yes
Venstar Thermostat No
Timerlinc yes
Controlinc no
Keypad dimmer not yet
Keypad relay yes
SteveL
Thanks. Updated: http://www.madreporite.com/insteon/Insteon_device_list.htm
Steve:
Thanks for your offer. I sent an email to [email protected]. I hope that's the right address.
For anyone who is interested in the discussion on SmartLinc customization that died out, it can be found at http://www.techmall.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4066
-Tom
Thanks for your offer. I sent an email to [email protected]. I hope that's the right address.
For anyone who is interested in the discussion on SmartLinc customization that died out, it can be found at http://www.techmall.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4066
-Tom
Looks like TFitzpatrick is tasked to do this by SH based on his own statement in that thread. It is not his Full Time job (I might be wrong about that if things have changed recently) so it may be awhile or he found more problems with it and went silent about it until there is something to release. SH is only a Part Time gig for Tom and maybe someone else at SH can work on it to speed it up?
krmiller53
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Just for everyone's info, I am indeed KenM, the nefarious INSTEON 'commenter' person. I had asked the CocoonTech folks via PM, to just delete my account. That did not happen so I created a new account, that was less ambiguous as to who was the owner. I am the person who bought two INSTEON SDK memberships and did indeed spend a full year of my spare time trying to make the PLC work with the SDM. InHomeFre. I no longer even answer emails about that, I got tired of making up excuses as to why the users request could not be met.
I like X10, I 'sort of' like INSTEON devices. I do not like 'people' who just keep selling HA devices that are known to be messed up. If some poor fool should happen to buy an older INSTEON appliancelinc on ebay, then he/her may have the joy of reliving my first INSTEON experience. That was having my living room filled with smoke when the thing died.
I am sure that someone will say that this is old and quit re-hashing it. I would answer to that, newbies do not go back and review the past three years worth of posts. Someone has to stand up and say, 'huh?'.
ken
Cool
So it will be available to everyone now as more people in that thread were asking for it? If SH cant make it available would it would it be acceptable to have it on Cocoontech as a download for people?
This is a set of files from a third party developer. I did add a excel sheet with the commands though. The info that I saw Smarthome talking about was not meant as a consumer program to alter your Smartlinc, it was for developers and people that were comfortable with some advanced applications to develop there own applications and interfaces to utilize the Smartlinc over the network. The information I supplied xlurkr will allow him to do both. He is welcome to share it with you. This was not intended as a program that you call tech support for and ask how to use it.
SteveL
not a problem here - i still have mine and will repost my pearls of wisdom
QUOTE (jlehnert @ Jan 19 2009, 01:54 PM)
Smarthome has had QC problems for ages, starting at least as far back with the X10 version of the SwitchLincs. At one point they had some flunkies flaming people on various boards for spreading "false rumors" about QC problems. I guess at the time it was cheaper to pay them than it was to spend money on QC. I'm not surprised that I'm hearing about more problems with SH QC. The bad part about it is that I would not be surprised that come 2012, I'll still be hearing about new QC problems with SH equipment.
we malcontents that have $4000 invested in craplincs deserve to be flamed becauce we have unrealistically high expectations that a product should do what it claims
Smarthome has had QC problems for ages, starting at least as far back with the X10 version of the SwitchLincs. At one point they had some flunkies flaming people on various boards for spreading "false rumors" about QC problems. I guess at the time it was cheaper to pay them than it was to spend money on QC. I'm not surprised that I'm hearing about more problems with SH QC. The bad part about it is that I would not be surprised that come 2012, I'll still be hearing about new QC problems with SH equipment.
we malcontents that have $4000 invested in craplincs deserve to be flamed becauce we have unrealistically high expectations that a product should do what it claims
QUOTE (Dan (electron) @ Jan 22 2009, 07:18 PM)
If those kind of posts are being deleted before SmartHome actually sees them, then the moderator should be fired ASAP.
he fought awfully hard to get that esteemed position - of course - he deleted his posts where he flamed any other contenders or anyone that supportted other contenders
If those kind of posts are being deleted before SmartHome actually sees them, then the moderator should be fired ASAP.
he fought awfully hard to get that esteemed position - of course - he deleted his posts where he flamed any other contenders or anyone that supportted other contenders
surprising to see so many surprised by this - this behaviour is the norm for them
'there is nothing wrong with our plms'
'there is no paddle problem'
'socketlincs are super duper'
'that fire was not caused by our appliancelincs'
'the update for houselinc will be out next week'
'the problem is your house wiring even though x10 had no problem with it'
'its revolutionary - you can't expect it to work'
'i2 is a myth and anyone that says otherwise is spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt'
'buy a $200 membership in our secret handshake club and it will work for you'
'stop complaining because they are sweet when you call for a replacement'
'x10 can coexist with 60 insteon devices'
'oops - that person left the company - can you prove you sent in that plm?'
'oops - that person left the company and we forgot all about you homeseer developers'
it takes critical mass (or michel at udi) to get an acknowledgment from them of problems - and it takes michel to teach them what that problem is and how to fix it
as far as the 'other forum' owned by them - they never answer questions or respond to problems - even when people noticed charges on their cards and suspected the source was from their computers, they had no comment
at best - shady company
'there is nothing wrong with our plms'
'there is no paddle problem'
'socketlincs are super duper'
'that fire was not caused by our appliancelincs'
'the update for houselinc will be out next week'
'the problem is your house wiring even though x10 had no problem with it'
'its revolutionary - you can't expect it to work'
'i2 is a myth and anyone that says otherwise is spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt'
'buy a $200 membership in our secret handshake club and it will work for you'
'stop complaining because they are sweet when you call for a replacement'
'x10 can coexist with 60 insteon devices'
'oops - that person left the company - can you prove you sent in that plm?'
'oops - that person left the company and we forgot all about you homeseer developers'
it takes critical mass (or michel at udi) to get an acknowledgment from them of problems - and it takes michel to teach them what that problem is and how to fix it
as far as the 'other forum' owned by them - they never answer questions or respond to problems - even when people noticed charges on their cards and suspected the source was from their computers, they had no comment
at best - shady company
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