Does anybody have any experience interfacing Fibaro http://www.fibaro.com/us products such as the flood senser and RGBW with the Omni Pro II controller? If so, I'd appreciate any advice, suggestions etc you have to offer.
Omni Pro II and Fibaro
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I would LOVE an answer to this myself.
What i have found out is that the two following items will be mandatory as they are designed by levtion, and supported by HAI:
Leviton Vizia RF + Z-Wave Plug-In Serial Interface Module and the Leviton VRUSB-1US Vizia RF + Installer Tool USB.
I am hoping that someone can confimr is we can use Fibaro products together with the above items as a fully integrated plausible network for HAI to become Z-Wave compatible.
Cheers,
Jared
What i have found out is that the two following items will be mandatory as they are designed by levtion, and supported by HAI:
Leviton Vizia RF + Z-Wave Plug-In Serial Interface Module and the Leviton VRUSB-1US Vizia RF + Installer Tool USB.
I am hoping that someone can confimr is we can use Fibaro products together with the above items as a fully integrated plausible network for HAI to become Z-Wave compatible.
Cheers,
Jared
Frunple
Active Member
HAI IS zwave compatible. Has been for a long time. Yes you need the VRC0P, the installer tool is optional but it makes setup easier. Otherwise you need to use a master remote and that gets kinda clumsy.jareds said:I would LOVE an answer to this myself.
What i have found out is that the two following items will be mandatory as they are designed by levtion, and supported by HAI:
Leviton Vizia RF + Z-Wave Plug-In Serial Interface Module and the Leviton VRUSB-1US Vizia RF + Installer Tool USB.
I am hoping that someone can confimr is we can use Fibaro products together with the above items as a fully integrated plausible network for HAI to become Z-Wave compatible.
Cheers,
Jared
AndrewRubin
New Member
Hey Guys,
Sorry but I just stumbled across this and I have to comment.
I am responsible for the Leviton S and A product in Australia.
And the answer to your questions above is a big yes!
We have been using a driver for Leviton Integration into FIbaro for about a year now, and it is flawless! Fibaro works so well through Leviton snap link its incredible, so fast and reliable and the feedback is perfect
Additionally, when using the Bitwise Integration module over the top of the Leviton omni you can have a custom interface, so we can all retrofit lighting and offer custom interfaces.... there will also soon be a module for Bitwise! Anyway all details below, all you need is an interface and the License developed by a good customer of Mine in Australia! Cheers Andrew (FYI my customers have deployed 100PLUS jobs)
Link To ADAs website. Email him for the driver and price (remember z wave frequencies vary, all Zwave interfaces ie the VERA need to be sourced locally)
http://www.automationdistributors.com.au/zwave/z-wave-kits/omni-zwave-interface-kit-serial-connection
Full PDF Instructions: http://docdro.id/gMJzXSH
Sorry but I just stumbled across this and I have to comment.
I am responsible for the Leviton S and A product in Australia.
And the answer to your questions above is a big yes!
We have been using a driver for Leviton Integration into FIbaro for about a year now, and it is flawless! Fibaro works so well through Leviton snap link its incredible, so fast and reliable and the feedback is perfect
Additionally, when using the Bitwise Integration module over the top of the Leviton omni you can have a custom interface, so we can all retrofit lighting and offer custom interfaces.... there will also soon be a module for Bitwise! Anyway all details below, all you need is an interface and the License developed by a good customer of Mine in Australia! Cheers Andrew (FYI my customers have deployed 100PLUS jobs)
Link To ADAs website. Email him for the driver and price (remember z wave frequencies vary, all Zwave interfaces ie the VERA need to be sourced locally)
http://www.automationdistributors.com.au/zwave/z-wave-kits/omni-zwave-interface-kit-serial-connection
Full PDF Instructions: http://docdro.id/gMJzXSH
Came across this thread as I am trying to get Fibaro devices to work with Omnipro.
I have an Omnipro II, Leviton VRCOP, Leviton Zwave USB stick and a couple of Fibaro Zwave devices.
From what I have figured out so far.
1. OmniPro II is NOT Zwave compatible using the VRCOP serial interface. it is Leviton proprietary Zwave Compatible, plus a few other Zwave devices, like Zwave locks, that Leviton has decided to support.
2. Leviton Zwave will NOT work with Fibaro (and I suspect most other non-Leviton Zwave devices. I have tried to find a Leviton Zwave compatibility list, but I cannot find one, so I am surmising that most Zwave devices do not work with Leviton Zwave.) I have also fount other comments by Leviton support that says the VRCOP only will associate with Levition products.
3. Tried to get Leviton Zwave to work with Aoetec Smart Switch 6. Leviton Installer Tool could not connect to it. Again, Levition Zwave only works with Leviton products.
4. I have not tried the Vera Zwave solution that is mentioned in the previous post. It sounds like it will work. It also costs an additional $225 to $275 (for Vera controller and license for the Vera Omni interface app).
It is also very telling about Leviton's support for both OmniPro and Zwave that Leviton employees are promoting a third party solution to connect devices to the Omnipro rather than fixing their own products (VRCOP & Installer Tool) that is supposed to integrate Omnipro and Zwave.
I have an Omnipro II, Leviton VRCOP, Leviton Zwave USB stick and a couple of Fibaro Zwave devices.
From what I have figured out so far.
1. OmniPro II is NOT Zwave compatible using the VRCOP serial interface. it is Leviton proprietary Zwave Compatible, plus a few other Zwave devices, like Zwave locks, that Leviton has decided to support.
2. Leviton Zwave will NOT work with Fibaro (and I suspect most other non-Leviton Zwave devices. I have tried to find a Leviton Zwave compatibility list, but I cannot find one, so I am surmising that most Zwave devices do not work with Leviton Zwave.) I have also fount other comments by Leviton support that says the VRCOP only will associate with Levition products.
3. Tried to get Leviton Zwave to work with Aoetec Smart Switch 6. Leviton Installer Tool could not connect to it. Again, Levition Zwave only works with Leviton products.
4. I have not tried the Vera Zwave solution that is mentioned in the previous post. It sounds like it will work. It also costs an additional $225 to $275 (for Vera controller and license for the Vera Omni interface app).
It is also very telling about Leviton's support for both OmniPro and Zwave that Leviton employees are promoting a third party solution to connect devices to the Omnipro rather than fixing their own products (VRCOP & Installer Tool) that is supposed to integrate Omnipro and Zwave.
I can also tell you that it is impossible for the Omni to use sensors that would somehow appear as zones. The Omni is a UL certified device and the UL is quite fussy on what qualifies as a zone input. For zone inputs the Omni supports wired and two wireless receivers and that is it. Period. Now the Omni CAN control Z-wave and Zigbee light switches, but a switch is much different than a burglar or fire zone.dwightk said:
drvnbysound
Senior Member
I don't know if I agree with that. First, I'm pretty certain that there are people on this forum using the OPII with the VRCOP. Secondly, I have the VRCOP working with GE/Jasco Zwave devices, so you're not limited to Leviton Zwave devices (i.e. not proprietary). Granted, ano made great points above, and it may be that the type of Zwave device that you're trying to add isn't supported, but that doesn't mean it's "proprietary".
pete_c
Guru
Here I was able to make the VRCOP a secondary controller to the Z-Wave Me plus GPIO controller a few weeks back sans use of the Leviton RF+ remote control. I was just putting the VRCOP in programming mode and then telling the primary to send the data over.
I do not have any battery stuff configured but I can control all of the Z-Wave hodgepodge devices (units) with the OmniPro 2 panel.
I did also find a Linux command line program that allows control of the VRCOP via the serial port along with updating the firmware of the VRCOP here===>vrc0p
@Andrew; can I turn a Bitwise BC4 into one of those Bitwise module widgets you write about?
I do not have any battery stuff configured but I can control all of the Z-Wave hodgepodge devices (units) with the OmniPro 2 panel.
I did also find a Linux command line program that allows control of the VRCOP via the serial port along with updating the firmware of the VRCOP here===>vrc0p
@Andrew; can I turn a Bitwise BC4 into one of those Bitwise module widgets you write about?
First of all, my caveat. I do not own/possess any Fibaro or Bitwise devices. The following info was provided to me by others working in the field.
With that said, it appears that Leviton S&A is now focusing on Bitwise as it's integration platform of choice. So, to integrate Fibaro devices with BW, you would need a Fibaro Home Center and a BW controller. The BW controller would send HTTP requests to the Fibaro home center which in turn would control the Fibaro devices. The OP2 could be interfaced to the BW controller.
The BW controller would be the center of operations. The path from the OP2 would be to the BW controller to the Fibaro Home Center and ultimately to the Fibaro device and vice versa.
So, the only other option is to use the previously noted Vera hub option with a OP2 serial connection.
With that said, it appears that Leviton S&A is now focusing on Bitwise as it's integration platform of choice. So, to integrate Fibaro devices with BW, you would need a Fibaro Home Center and a BW controller. The BW controller would send HTTP requests to the Fibaro home center which in turn would control the Fibaro devices. The OP2 could be interfaced to the BW controller.
The BW controller would be the center of operations. The path from the OP2 would be to the BW controller to the Fibaro Home Center and ultimately to the Fibaro device and vice versa.
So, the only other option is to use the previously noted Vera hub option with a OP2 serial connection.
Quote from AndrewRubin...
Well, there is now a module for Bitwise. http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/SectionDisplay.jsp?section=76770&minisite=10251
Well, there is now a module for Bitwise. http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/SectionDisplay.jsp?section=76770&minisite=10251
I realize this is an old thread but I wanted to clear some things up about Z-Wave.
If a company has limitations on what Z-Wave devices they allow into their system, they should not be Z-Wave compliant nor certified. Z-Wave is designed to be interoperable. If it is not, it is not true Z-Wave.
https://z-wavealliance.org/z-wave_certification_key_to_interoperability/
This is the beauty of Z-Wave and why in my opinion, why it is taking off and beating Zigbee.
If a company has limitations on it's Z-Wave products, in my opinion, they should not be allowed to use the name Z-Wave to describe their platform as it is not what Z-Wave was designed to do.
According to Leviton tech support agents, the OP2 and the VRCOP do not support lots of Z-Wave products catagories like door window switches, motion sensors and dual relays just to name a few.
If a company has limitations on what Z-Wave devices they allow into their system, they should not be Z-Wave compliant nor certified. Z-Wave is designed to be interoperable. If it is not, it is not true Z-Wave.
https://z-wavealliance.org/z-wave_certification_key_to_interoperability/
This is the beauty of Z-Wave and why in my opinion, why it is taking off and beating Zigbee.
If a company has limitations on it's Z-Wave products, in my opinion, they should not be allowed to use the name Z-Wave to describe their platform as it is not what Z-Wave was designed to do.
According to Leviton tech support agents, the OP2 and the VRCOP do not support lots of Z-Wave products catagories like door window switches, motion sensors and dual relays just to name a few.
pete_c
Guru
Welcome to the Cocoontech Forum JamrD
Understood about the limitations.
We are the peanut gallery here relating to the do's and what nots of automation and security.
Really thinking this is because the base Omni Security pieces of the panel support historical approved alarm devices which connect to the panel wired or wirelessly via an alarm standard approved receiver.
side rant....
I do see the verbiage out there in internetlandia of wireless Zigbee and Zwave sensors relating to environmental monitoring and disclosures about these devices not being life and saftey devices of old and now maybe being able to utilize them as life and safty devices of new (IE: the HAI Omni alarm panels are combo security and automation panels.) concurrent now with DIY alarm features like self monitoring et al ...and seeing the small fine print NOT to use this stuff for life and safety....sort of a parodox in advertising...
Noticed the Leviton main web site has changed a bit recently with a proclivity to mainlining lighting now.
Understood about the limitations.
We are the peanut gallery here relating to the do's and what nots of automation and security.
Really thinking this is because the base Omni Security pieces of the panel support historical approved alarm devices which connect to the panel wired or wirelessly via an alarm standard approved receiver.
side rant....
Noticed the Leviton main web site has changed a bit recently with a proclivity to mainlining lighting now.
Maybe the tech support folks meant that the VRCOP does not support a lot of newer Z-Wave Plus devices. The VRCOP is Z-Wave certified but NOT Z-Wave Plus certified. https://products.z-wavealliance.org/products/2063JamrD said:
StarTrekDoors
Active Member
JamrD said:
Z-Wave like any other technology can be referenced as "Z-Wave" at a cloud-level view of the technology but at the ground, may use different methodologies and levels of compatibility with different devices. While it makes sense that we should all wish for all manufacturer's to follow the same standards for interoperability, that is not the case, just like so many other technologies - just like having a bluetooth device that works with one thing but not another, even though all devices in the mix are labeled as supporting the same version of bluetooth.
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