Prox Sensor and Unlock Door

[gizmosrcool]

Hello Elk Users.

From my Garage I have a entry into a small mud room. I want to put a keypad in the mud room and mount a Elk external prox sensor in the garage. They share a common wall so I think that will be easy. I also will put an electronic lock and I am thinking of the following.

1. We enter the garage and the alarm is armed. Nothing hooked to the garage door and that is ok for now. Using a fob, you swipe it at the sensor and it disarms the alarm and pops the lock. Looking at the docs, and already using a keypad with a built-in prox sensor, that seems easy to do.

2. Now if we enter the garage and the alarm is off. Say someone is home. I want to use the fob on the prox sensor to unlock the door. Now if the external prox sensor works like the internal one, it will arm the alarm. That I do not want.

Has anyone done something like this? Maybe I am missing something there. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thx, T.

 

[gcimmino]

2. Now if we enter the garage and the alarm is off. Say someone is home. I want to use the fob on the prox sensor to unlock the door. Now if the external prox sensor works like the internal one, it will arm the alarm. That I do not want.

Well, it's the "works like the internal one" that I don't understand. I've used both Wiegand interface external keypads and external prox sensors hooked to an internal M1 KP through the wall. In both cases, the presence of the prox "user" itself, e.g. the swipe, doesn't cause any activity. One needs rules in the M1 to make things happen.

For example:

WHENEVER ACCESS (KP 5) IS TRIGGERED
  THEN ACTIVATE Door Unlock (Task 8)
  THEN DISARM AREA(S) 1 IMMEDIATELY

So, from the rules, you can unlock the door and disarm the zone.

 

[gizmosrcool]

For me, it behaves differently. Without any rules, if a fob is presented to the KP, it either arms or disarms it. Just depends on the state its in. This is with the built-in Elk Prox sensor.

So seeing how this behaves, if the door is closed and system not armed, then a presented fob will arm it. So I would have to write a rule to then disarm it and unlock the door. Just wondering if the quick arm of the fob and then quick disarm of the rule will mess it up at all.

Guess I am going to find out.

Thank You for your note. T.

 

[paulw11]

Hi,

It depends on the settings for the user that corresponds to the prox card. If you give arm/disarm permissions then swiping the card will arm/disarm the system. If you give only the "access" permission then you can use the rule suggested above.

Paul

 

[gizmosrcool]

ok. now I understand better. If I take away "arm" then I could have the behavior I want and add a few rules for the garage entry. The fob could then still default to normal behavior and disarm if presented to any KP. That is helpful. I will now start specing out the lock and relay.

Thank You, T.