RFID 125kHz setup

[justinm001]

I'm looking into setting up some type of RFID proximity access setup. I plan having 3 of these on doors (front, back, inside garage) and using door strikes to allow access into the house. I've been looking at the HID Prozimity 125kHz setup and it seems pretty cost effective(around $200 per door). I see you setup cardholders and can edit privileges by all lkinds of schedules but I'm wondering if the host software is able to tell who's entering and when. This would be great so I can know if my daughter gets home from school (shoots me an email) or if the house sitter came while we're on vacation. I can't seem to findout if the software actually knows who's coming in or if it just gives them access. Can anyone help?

I'm already starting to use girder and I'd also love to be able to have it create actions for when certain people come in (ie. I come in and it turns on my bedroom lights and if my daughter comes in it turns on her lights.)

I'm open to any other devices, hopefully they're contactless. I saw the zwave quikset lock but it's a combination and seems it'll take more time then turning a key, contactless would be easiest if carrying groceries and whatever else. I'm looking for about under $300 per door.

 

[fwd03]

I'm looking into setting up some type of RFID proximity access setup. I plan having 3 of these on doors (front, back, inside garage) and using door strikes to allow access into the house. I've been looking at the HID Prozimity 125kHz setup and it seems pretty cost effective(around $200 per door). I see you setup cardholders and can edit privileges by all lkinds of schedules but I'm wondering if the host software is able to tell who's entering and when. This would be great so I can know if my daughter gets home from school (shoots me an email) or if the house sitter came while we're on vacation. I can't seem to findout if the software actually knows who's coming in or if it just gives them access. Can anyone help?

I'm already starting to use girder and I'd also love to be able to have it create actions for when certain people come in (ie. I come in and it turns on my bedroom lights and if my daughter comes in it turns on her lights.)

I'm open to any other devices, hopefully they're contactless. I saw the zwave quikset lock but it's a combination and seems it'll take more time then turning a key, contactless would be easiest if carrying groceries and whatever else. I'm looking for about under $300 per door.

There are used to be a lot of them on eBay, the RFID controller and RS-232 connection software can log which RFID opened door. Depending on the door, the opening device may not that cheap. If you have standard home door, the door strike can be brought for less than $10 or up to $200. Our office door is very thin metal door, that can be very expensive. Take a look this item and this eBay seller also sell some monitoring software you wanted.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=160354433212

 

[gatchel]

I wouldn't trust that strike to hold paper on my desk at work.

If you want a strike go with a known brand name product and pay the money for it. It's worth it.
H.E.S., Folger Adams, Rutherford, Von Duprin.

Remember that if you use a strike and adjust it so that the door makes a proper weather seal, there is a pretty good chance that you will have to move the door the opposite direction before pulling/pushing the door open.

 

[az1324]

This is on my list of wants too. Anything available that has the range of proximity vehicle entry systems (5-12 ft)? Those are passive 125kHz right? I'll probably use one of the RF deadbolts instead of a strike though.

 

[gatchel]

HID makes a MaxiProx which can give you about 24 inches of read range with a standard prox card, it's pretty big though.
You can use the proxpass active cards and get about 6 feet read range.


http://www.hidglobal.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=10

AWID makes long range prox (LR-2000) readers that have the characteristics that you might be looking for.

http://www.awid.com/solutions/detail.aspx?...lution=MTAwMQ==


Either of these readers are pricey as the are mostly used in commercial applications.

 

[az1324]

Not really satisfied with those. Seems like there are some aftermarket vehicle PKE (passive keyless entry) kits starting to come out of china with 1-2m range for $50-150. Though they don't seem to achieve the ranges I've witnessed with the factory Nissan systems, they do seem to work within the 1m range and are also attractive because the fobs have RF transmitters with buttons which could be co-opted for other triggers. Main desire is to not have to take the keys out of your pocket and door is unlocked by the time you're turning the handle. I will be keeping my eye on that market and hopefully adapting it to HA.

 

[JonW]

Not really satisfied with those. Seems like there are some aftermarket vehicle PKE (passive keyless entry) kits starting to come out of china with 1-2m range for $50-150. Though they don't seem to achieve the ranges I've witnessed with the factory Nissan systems, they do seem to work within the 1m range and are also attractive because the fobs have RF transmitters with buttons which could be co-opted for other triggers. Main desire is to not have to take the keys out of your pocket and door is unlocked by the time you're turning the handle. I will be keeping my eye on that market and hopefully adapting it to HA.

Any links for these?

 

[az1324]

Any links for these?

Just what you get on alibaba by searching PKE. Some video demos around the net.

 

[swaggy]

I want to detect the presence of both cars in my garage and thought maybe I could use RFID for this. Do any of you have any thoughts on how to do this with the OmniPro? Is RFID even a viable solution for this?

 

[potts.mike]

I want to detect the presence of both cars in my garage and thought maybe I could use RFID for this. Do any of you have any thoughts on how to do this with the OmniPro? Is RFID even a viable solution for this?

I am going to use a maxbotics ultra sonic range finder to measure the distance from the ceiling down. This will tell me if the car is in the garage and if the door is open or closed. You will need a computer for this though, I dont think it will interface with the hai panel.

 

[fwd03]

I wouldn't trust that strike to hold paper on my desk at work.

If you want a strike go with a known brand name product and pay the money for it. It's worth it.
H.E.S., Folger Adams, Rutherford, Von Duprin.

Remember that if you use a strike and adjust it so that the door makes a proper weather seal, there is a pretty good chance that you will have to move the door the opposite direction before pulling/pushing the door open.

I actually ordered the strike from them, the quality is not bad at all. The thread was talking about the RFID, I think all the RFID in 125Khz are similar in range and quality. There are RFID in higher frequencies, that might have big range. But I did not play with it and don't know.

After play with the RFID receivers, I think I would prefer a unit only have coil outside, so that bad elements will have no chance to alter the wiring or try the keypads. There are different RFID receivers allowing multi-coils. I think RFID reciever is much safer than those keypad garage door openers.

 

[gatchel]

I actually ordered the strike from them, the quality is not bad at all. The thread was talking about the RFID, I think all the RFID in 125Khz are similar in range and quality. There are RFID in higher frequencies, that might have big range. But I did not play with it and don't know.

After play with the RFID receivers, I think I would prefer a unit only have coil outside, so that bad elements will have no chance to alter the wiring or try the keypads. There are different RFID receivers allowing multi-coils. I think RFID reciever is much safer than those keypad garage door openers.

I always try to use off the shelf components of name brand equipment. I have replaced too much garbage over the years.

Good luck with your project.

 

[fwd03]

I actually ordered the strike from them, the quality is not bad at all. The thread was talking about the RFID, I think all the RFID in 125Khz are similar in range and quality. There are RFID in higher frequencies, that might have big range. But I did not play with it and don't know.

After play with the RFID receivers, I think I would prefer a unit only have coil outside, so that bad elements will have no chance to alter the wiring or try the keypads. There are different RFID receivers allowing multi-coils. I think RFID reciever is much safer than those keypad garage door openers.

I always try to use off the shelf components of name brand equipment. I have replaced too much garbage over the years.

Good luck with your project.

It is true a lot of garbage out there in the market place. I think the strike is okay in quality, but I did not install it, due to our metal door not that easy to modify. I think the 125Khz RFID is easy to configure and reliable. But I don't like to have that controller installed outside, where people can pull it open and all the control wire is in the back and marked clearly. If a person know what the "relay NO" mean, he can just use a piece of wire get door open without the FRID tag. So I am looking for ways to take the coil out from the controller box and place it outside and mount the controller inside the wall.

 

[gatchel]

It is true a lot of garbage out there in the market place. I think the strike is okay in quality, but I did not install it, due to our metal door not that easy to modify. I think the 125Khz RFID is easy to configure and reliable. But I don't like to have that controller installed outside, where people can pull it open and all the control wire is in the back and marked clearly. If a person know what the "relay NO" mean, he can just use a piece of wire get door open without the FRID tag. So I am looking for ways to take the coil out from the controller box and place it outside and mount the controller inside the wall.

OK I see now, You're using a standalone reader with the electronics built in. Got it.

There are remote electronics versions of single door keypads and readers out there, they are a bit more pricey.