Vista 20p and x-10

[fatty]

I have a fully functioning vista 20p and want to turn lights on etc when armed disarmed door opens whatever. The x-10 transformer for use with the 20p (1361x10) is no longer made. They do still make a transformer for the lynx panel but it is only 9v. My question is this. Can I use honeywell part #10145x10 9VAC to supply the x-10 to the powerline. In other words I would have two transformers connected to the panel one two wire that supplies D/C to the panel/battery and the other only connected with the 3 wires needed to inject x-10 into the powerline. D/C out on the 10145x10 9VAC would be left without wire only the data com and sync terminals would be wired.
Seems like it should work to me. Anyone know before I start drilling holes in the walls to feed wire to a second transformer?

 

[ano]

I don't have an answer for you but I used that combination a long time ago. I will tell you it wasn't the most reliable combination I have seen.  In any case, why don't you keep checking eBay?  Those transformers were pretty popular, and I would think they go for sale now-and-then.  You also may want to try a local alarm installer. You could possibly get a used one from a system they have taken out.

 

[JDWX]

Interesting, as I have used x-10 for some time and am considering a cheap 20-p since I just can't do an Elk any time soon. 

 

[fatty]

I forgot to mention I have already bought the 2nd transformer.

 

[fatty]

on a related note is there a reciever that picks up Ademco 5800 wireless sensos signals. Seems like they are flying through the house I should be able to pick them up with both the honeywell RF reciever and an adapter on thye PC connected to homeseer, HCA or some other software.

 

[Del91574]

No 3rd party receiver for Honeywell 5800 series RF I know of.
 
There used to be a module that X10 made that would take the SYNC and COM (and the 3rd wire) from the header and allow it to connect to a separate wall wart to allow X10 without the 4300 or the 13XXXX transformer.
 
If you're not against a different technology you can get the Tuxedo keypad and run Zwave within reason, same with the separate Zwave (albeit limited) module that Honeywell makes.

 

[fatty]

already pretty deep into insteon. The need to trigger scenes from the saecurity panel isn't a must just thought it would be nice. I'm going to hook it up and see what happens. worst case...... I burn the house down, best case i get scenes for $13!

 

[ano]

Good luck.  Getting it to work even when you have the correct transformer can be a challenge.

 

[Del91574]

If you're already deep into insteon and have Honeywell RF, I'd look into an Elk over the 20P. Direct integration.

 

[jpmargis]

Can I use honeywell part #10145x10 9VAC to supply the x-10 to the powerline. In other words I would have two transformers connected to the panel one two wire that supplies A/C to the panel/battery and the other only connected with the 3 wires needed to inject x-10 into the powerline. A/C out on the 10145x10 9VAC would be left without wire only the data com and sync terminals would be wired.

 
Yes, this works.  I fixed your D/C references, but I know what you meant.

 

[fatty]

thanks for the confirmation. I wired it up and the house didn't burn down. Works fine as long as the stereo isn't on... I have 3 huge class A amps that are causing me problems but other than that and a little trouble programming the 20p it works well.
 
I wanted to go with elk but the cost would have been 3 x as much plus the elk module for my isy this is much cheaper and so far is meeting my needs.
 
Thanks all.

 

[ano]

I haven't used it in years, but I remember it did some funky things, depending what you triggered it on.  Also, every now-and-then it would lockup, and stop transmitting, where I had to unplug it and plug it in again.

 

[fatty]

so far so good. no lock ups or strange behavior other than the stereo. I anticipate a filterlinc will take care of that. I will report back in a month or 2
 
 
Thanks again, home automation rules!!!!!!!!!