Premise X10 Pro PSH02 Powerhorn

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Is anyone using an X10 Pro PSH02 Powerhorn with Premise? I bought one in hopes of being able to control it and being able to tie it into my DIY home security system. I've read that if you send multiple ON/OFF commands to the Powerhorn that it would sound. I have not been able to accomplish this and am just wondering if anyone has had success using this horn with Premise.

Thanks
 
Is anyone using an X10 Pro PSH02 Powerhorn with Premise? I bought one in hopes of being able to control it and being able to tie it into my DIY home security system. I've read that if you send multiple ON/OFF commands to the Powerhorn that it would sound. I have not been able to accomplish this and am just wondering if anyone has had success using this horn with Premise.

Thanks

I'm not using one and this is totally unrelated, but I am unable to post new topics in the premise forum now? Is there some issue with site?

In firefox I get the following error:

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POST to /forums/index.php not supported.

IE doesn't really give me any useful information. I'm clicking the "NewTopic" button found within the Premise forum.
 
hmm... I do know one thing that may help. I still haven't bought any lighting controls yet, but my understanding is that x10 comes in a secure protocol and also an unsecure protocol. I thought that the secure x10 items would not work with the CM11a so maybe that is your issue?
 
hmm... I do know one thing that may help. I still haven't bought any lighting controls yet, but my understanding is that x10 comes in a secure protocol and also an unsecure protocol. I thought that the secure x10 items would not work with the CM11a so maybe that is your issue?


Hmmm.. That's interesting. I had not heard of that being the case, but perhaps that's the problem. I'll give it a try using an RF receiver, miniremote and horn all on the same house code and see if that makes a difference. I'll report what I find. Thanks.


*EDIT* So I just tried it and still nothing. Set all to house code C. The remote sets to C1 (the receiver) and C2 (the horn). Pressing on off on the top buttons makes the relay on the receiver click so I know RF is working fine. I press the bottom buttons for C2 and still nothing. Both receiver and horn are plugged into the same outlet. I think this horn is busted.

From the X10 product PDF:

To trip the SH10A from any X10 controller (if you hear a strange noise at
night, for example): Press Unit Code-ON, then Unit Code-OFF, then Unit
Code-ON, repeatedly. The SH10A will sound for as long as you keep
pressing ON and OFF and will stop a few seconds after you stop pressing
buttons. Or press Unit Code-ON and hold the button pressed for a few
seconds. Or press All Lights On, then All Units Off, repeatedly.

I'd hate to buy another just to find it does the same thing ..
 
I've never used one but I had a look at the PSH02's spec sheet. It seems like it will sound 4 seconds after receiving a continuous ON/OFF sequence and cease 4 seconds after the sequence ends. What a goofy trigger ...

Search Premise Builder's Help docs for "Using Timers to flash Lights on and off". You'll find examples using a Logic Diagram and Scripting. Based on the scripting example, here's how I'd tackle it:

Create a Simple Timer in Modules > Default (or in whatever Module you wish). The attached image shows a Simple Timer that triggers every 2 seconds and repeats 10 times. I wouldn't recommend an interval less than 2 seconds because X10 commands need time to propagate on the power lines. You can set the number of repetitions to suit your needs.

The OnChangeTrigger script toggles the PSH02's PowerState and resets the timer after it has completed ten repetitions.
Code:
' Assume the X10 address of the PSH02 is A1
' Toggle its PowerState
with Devices.X10.CM11A.X10.House_A.X10_A_01
	.PowerState = not .PowerState
end with

' Reset the timer after all repetitions have been completed
if this.TriggerCount = this.RepeatCount then
	this.Enabled = false
	this.TriggerCount = 0
end if

I don't know what you're using to trigger the siren. Assuming you have a DoorSensor object, here's what you could put in its OnChangeDoorOpened script:
Code:
' Activate siren only if the Door Sensor state is True and the Security System is Stay Armed
if sysevent.newval = true and Home.SecuritySystem.SecurityState = "StayArmed" then
	Modules.Default.Timers.PSH02.Enabled = true
end if

All of a Simple Timer's parameters can be altered programmatically. For example, to change the number of repetitions:
Modules.Default.Timers.PSH02.RepeatCount = 20
 

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The PowerHorns are triggered by a cycle of On and Off codes to the House and Unit Code the dials are set to; or by an All Light On;All Units Off [All Light Off also works].
The cycle is at about 1 second intervals and continues for four seconds after the cycle stops. I believe it also times out after four minutes of sounding.
I have triggerd them with a standard X10 controller or remote by using the correct buttons.
 
123, As always, thank you for your efforts and time you put into answering everyone's questions (mine in particular!). I'll give it a try this evening.

BLH, I've tried triggering using the rf mini-remote and couldn't get it to work. Is timing an issue? How fast were you issuing the on-off-on-off sequence?

Thanks guys!
 
I found that one second between the on and off was about correct. Doing some tests for someone in the X10 Forums. I found over two seconds between them made it intermittent or not trigger at all.

Try another thing. Send an On to the horns address then some dim or bright commands. It may ding and dong.
 
Hmm.. I was definitely mashing the buttons pretty fast. I'll have to give it another try. I would really like to be able to utilize the ding/dong and siren portions. I'll give this a go tonight as well. Thanks!
 
Well try as I might, I haven't been able to get this device to do ANYTHING. I have a funny feeling it's busted. I didn't have a chance to try 123's script yet though.
 
I read the spec sheet for the PS01, the companion device for the PSH02 siren. It mentions using ALL LIGHTS ON and ALL LIGHTS OFF commands. Try sending them instead of simple A1 ON and A1 OFF commands.

You can issue X10 commands manually using the CM11A driver. The attached image shows you where to find the ALL LIGHTS ON and ALL LIGHTS OFF commands in the Properties window.
 

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Since both X10 and X10Pro have redesigned many of their modules to use more modern components. Some improvements [their words not mine] like lamp modules and wall switches with soft start. I would try the All Lights On and All Lights Off. I know all of my older ones accept either set of commands; maybe the newer ones changed and the Users Guides didn't change.
 
Something else to try ;) I guess that eliminates the ability to use the chime? How can I send the bright/dim if I use All Lights On?
 
The All Light On and All Lights Off don't contain an address [House Code Unit code]. Example for House Code C.
C All Lights On sent; C All Lights Off is sent. In a normal X10 command it is the address C2 followed by a C On or C off.
I don't think the module will stay addressed with the All Lights commands and ignore the dim and brights.

Let us know if the All Lights commands work. I kind of doubt it myself and think the module may have a problem.
 
Yup. The All Lights On/Off did work!! I guess that's cool and also not cool as I can use the siren but not the ding/dong .. Oh well, I guess I can't have it all but at least I have an ear piercing siren. Thanks again guys.
 
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