Elk M1 and AIPHONE controlling door strike

[cezar_oz]

We are looking to control the door strike both through the Elk M1G and a video intercom (AIPhone JF-series standard system, video station at the front door and 2 internal colour monitors)

I found a diagram with Elk-924 relay (connected to output 7) controlling the strike, and then a mention of Elk-960 playing a part.

What is the best practice of putting this together? Which relay should I use (Elk-RB/912/924?), do I really need Elk-960? Do I wire release buttons on AIPhone stations in parallel to the relay and the strike?

Thanks heaps

 

[Neurorad]

Came across a relevant, current thread at remotecentral.com.

Page 2, 'There [are] actually 2 contact closures on those [Aiphone] units, even though Aiphone says there is not'. Whatever you do, do not purchase [the Aiphone] realy modules.'

I'd speak with the person who sells you the Aiphone (hopefully a knowledgable distributor).

 

[gatchel]

I believe you would use the orange and yellow wires on the small pigtail on the master/sub stations and parallel them across the N.O. contacts from any elk relay (Dry contact) C and N.O. terminals.

This is how we usually wire them. We just pull an extra 2 conductor from master to sub to sub, etc...

We don't like using the relay modules at the door. Depending on your wire layout you may find it easier to use them.

The orange and yellow wires come from the button on the aiphone units on the lower right front. Check your current ratings before doing this.

Most of the time we are actually tripping an external input on our access control system which unlocks the door through the access system.

http://www.aiphone.com/products/alpha-list/detail/jf2med

Edit: the terminals are labeled (SW). The reason we use this instead of the relay module is that it can be operated with out turning on the aiphone or if the aiphone unit fails. Remember the whole point of having a video intercom is to verify who is there BEFORE letting them in so if you use this output them make sure your users are trained and understand the issues with just letting people in without looking first.

 

[cezar_oz]

I believe you would use the orange and yellow wires on the small pigtail on the master/sub stations and parallel them across the N.O. contacts from any elk relay (Dry contact) C and N.O. terminals.

This is how we usually wire them. We just pull an extra 2 conductor from master to sub to sub, etc...

We don't like using the relay modules at the door. Depending on your wire layout you may find it easier to use them.

The orange and yellow wires come from the button on the aiphone units on the lower right front. Check your current ratings before doing this.

Most of the time we are actually tripping an external input on our access control system which unlocks the door through the access system.

http://www.aiphone.com/products/alpha-list/detail/jf2med

Edit: the terminals are labeled (SW). The reason we use this instead of the relay module is that it can be operated with out turning on the aiphone or if the aiphone unit fails. Remember the whole point of having a video intercom is to verify who is there BEFORE letting them in so if you use this output them make sure your users are trained and understand the issues with just letting people in without looking first.

Thanks guys, still perplexing why doesn't AIPHONE like a regular CAT5 wiring...

 

[gatchel]

Aihone units were designed to replace doorbell buttons and other older technologies.

If you must use CAT5 then the Aiphone AX series is what you are loolking for. Very cool and flexible. Also more expensive. No video recording built in though.

http://www.aiphone.com/products/alpha-list/detail/ax



If you don't use the recommened wire it's not the end of the world. We have used some standard 18-2 (stranded) for the JF series without issue at 100 to 200 feet. If you put it over 600 to 1000 feet of cable you might get audio but no video.

If you don't use the aiphone wire they might not help you with tech support.