Getting started with Elk m1 Gold

[Neurorad]

Monk - what brand(s) of enclosures do you have?

Looks like there is trim around your one of your cans (showcase photo), to be mounted flush. OnQ? CV?

I've studied the pics of the CV can, online, and I looked up the 'instructions' (spec sheet only online), and it doesn't specify.

Can anyone confirm that the 50" CV does not have flush-mount trim?

 

[Monk]

Monk - what brand(s) of enclosures do you have?

Looks like there is trim around your one of your cans (showcase photo), to be mounted flush. OnQ? CV?

I've studied the pics of the CV can, online, and I looked up the 'instructions' (spec sheet only online), and it doesn't specify.

Can anyone confirm that the 50" CV does not have flush-mount trim?

The 2 small ones are Elk I will have to check on the others. Yes I believe one of them is designed to be flush.

 

[charliebarns]

Monk - what brand(s) of enclosures do you have?

Looks like there is trim around your one of your cans (showcase photo), to be mounted flush. OnQ? CV?

I've studied the pics of the CV can, online, and I looked up the 'instructions' (spec sheet only online), and it doesn't specify.

Can anyone confirm that the 50" CV does not have flush-mount trim?

define 'flush mount trim'. I have 4 50" CVs, you mount them in between 16oc studs, 1/2 out to accommodate for drywall, once you attach the doors they sit flush against the drywall. Does this help??

 

[Neurorad]

Is there a lip around the edge of the enclosure, or can the CV enclosure accomodate various depths in the stud bay?

That is, must the can be mounted at a specific depth?

 

[charliebarns]

Is there a lip around the edge of the enclosure, or can the CV enclosure accomodate various depths in the stud bay?

That is, must the can be mounted at a specific depth?

Nope you can mount it at any depth.

cb

 

[Neurorad]

Thanks, CB.

Back on topic - yeah, the enclosures screw that stud bay for the other side of the wall, unless you have 6" studs.

Could that be an option for you, quba? Increase the depth of the wall, by adding another row of studs, to increase the thickness?

 

[guba807]

I might be able to increase the wall size. I haven't measured the room yet, but it is under the basement stairs. I roughed in the door opening on monday, and I'm working out issues with power and lighting for the space right now. Anyways, since the room is as narrow as the basement stairs, perhaps I can expand the wall on the non closet side. Perhaps, I'll make that wall thicker to reduce sound since the theater is to share the wall on the other side of the closet.

I hope my thoughts are clear.

 

[Neurorad]

Not sure why sound from the stairs would be an issue. I don't think fans in the closet could be heard through a wall.

But if sound is really an issue - consider staggered studs for the wall shared between the closet and the sitting area. It will give you the added depth you desire, and reduce sound conduction/transmission.

DIY staggered stud wall

But again, I doubt sound would be an issue.

I saw some pics on here somewhere, maybe from Dan(electron), showing a 2 x 6 stud wall used for the enclosures, which could also be a relatively easy solution to problems that could arise from a shared wall.

Edit - I think the pics I saw from Dan were labelled 'getting started' - many absent wires from the enclosure.

 

[Neurorad]

Found the 6" stud pic

 

[Digger]

Why not just put 2X2's on top of the existing suds. I did that once and it worked out perfectly since they are really about the same width of a 2X4 and they are a lot cheaper. The net effect is the same as sistering a 2X6 to the existing studs and a heck of a lot cheaper.

 

[guba807]

This is a load bearing wall, so a 2x6 wall will require complete reframing while suppporting floor above. I'll have to think about the 2x2's. I was hoping just to finish this closet for the time being, but it looks more and more like I will have to start a full master plan for the basement as one little thing is everything else.

The reason for the sound wall is not for noise out of the closet, it would be to reduce noise transfer through walls out of the theater area into the main living space of the basement. 3 of the intended theater walls are below grade, but the other wall (shared with the closet) opens into the rest of the walkout basement.

 

[Monk]

This is a load bearing wall, so a 2x6 wall will require complete reframing while suppporting floor above. I'll have to think about the 2x2's. I was hoping just to finish this closet for the time being, but it looks more and more like I will have to start a full master plan for the basement as one little thing is everything else.

The reason for the sound wall is not for noise out of the closet, it would be to reduce noise transfer through walls out of the theater area into the main living space of the basement. 3 of the intended theater walls are below grade, but the other wall (shared with the closet) opens into the rest of the walkout basement.

The staggered stud idea Neurorad posted is a great idea.
http://www.diy-home-theater-design.com/sta...-stud-wall.html

It would appear you could achieve the same or similar result by adding another 2x4 wall to your existing. The sound control idea behind this is that on either side of the wall, drywall is not being secured to the same physical stud -

edit - nor does the stud touch the other side's drywall..

 

[sic0048]

Monk - what brand(s) of enclosures do you have?

Looks like there is trim around your one of your cans (showcase photo), to be mounted flush. OnQ? CV?

I've studied the pics of the CV can, online, and I looked up the 'instructions' (spec sheet only online), and it doesn't specify.

Can anyone confirm that the 50" CV does not have flush-mount trim?

As already mentioned, the CV can itself does not have any flush mount tabs. So it can be mounted at any depth without problems. However, the trim around the optional doors do overhang the can by about an inch to give that nice clean look when flush mounted. So if you mounted the cans where they stuck out from the wall and wanted to use the doors, the door trim would hang over the can and stick out from the wall.

 

[Neurorad]

Adjacent stud bays ever a problem for 2 cans with doors?

What problems/issues have people had with CV enclosures?

 

[charliebarns]

As already mentioned, the CV can itself does not have any flush mount tabs. So it can be mounted at any depth without problems. However, the trim around the optional doors do overhang the can by about an inch to give that nice clean look when flush mounted. So if you mounted the cans where they stuck out from the wall and wanted to use the doors, the door trim would hang over the can and stick out from the wall.

I have a question about the doors as I haven't ordered mine yet. You say about 1", would you mind measuring for me. The reason being I've got 4 50" mounted in 16"oc studs, with one stud between them. This only gives me 1/5" of space between each box, and I'm worried that's not enough. If I *have* to change the framing, now is the time to do it. Sorry for the less than perfect picture but all I had today was my cell phone.

Thanks!

CB