Other than a lower rating, the Icons I have the same feature set as my V2s and Keypadlincs (except for perhaps a smaller link table, which is not an issue for a small or medium install). So for a small load, I can easily do an apples to apples comparison to UPB. There is no need to put a 1000W capable switch on a 75W load. The Fry's switch might be an option for lowering UPB cost in the short term (until they run out)...Steve said:I do not disagree, but it is important to understand my apples to apples argument. You can not compare an Icon to a UPB switch, that is apples to oranges.
A 600W switch is a $20 difference at retail and a 1000W dimmer is less than $10 difference at retail. I don't dispute UPB is more, but not drastic when comparing similar switches.
Chris,ChrisWalker said:I would venture to say that, by volume, Z-Wave devices are the most popular standards-based products in the market (other than X10).
you obviously haven't looked very hard... Automated Outlet has SAI 8-button keypads on a universal transceiver base for $89.95majortom said:I have not been able to find SAI keypads for less than $99. That is a fairly sizable price gap.
Google did not find them and I could not remember their name when I was looking. With that pricing, it is only 50% more, instead of 60%.DeLicious said:you obviously haven't looked very hard... Automated Outlet has SAI 8-button keypads on a universal transceiver base for $89.95
Yep, you are correct. I was speaking in very broad terms as in the full line of faceplates like the US240.Steve correctly identified these switches earlier in this thread as the SAI model US1130W. This switch is still being made; in fact its one of SAIs best sellers. Something Steve didn't know was that the US1130 does accept SAI's replacable faceplates. This means that you can change colors freely. You can also choose the "dual tall" faceplate configuration for a dual rocker on the same switch. The US1130 won't accept push button or 4 rocker faceplates though.
Hmmm, as someone who is considering switching to z-wave, this can't be true. My house also has all metal gang boxes. Does z-wave really not travel well through them?RonX said:I was on the same decision, I finally went with Insteon because I know I will hate UPB delay (the price was a factor too). I like Z-Wave, but I can't use it since wall boxes are all metal (house is built with bricks and concrete).