My Nextel i760 Phone

Rupp said:
Smee,
This is exactly what I want to do. The one thing I wanted to confirm was that you could get the data plan without the voice plan. Also about the tracking. Does it work? How often does it drop a way point? Do you simply leave the phone on and run this app? Can you elaborate on this a bit more?
Thanks
Greg
If you go with Boost Mobile, you can't get a data plan without a voice plan. However, it's a pay-as-you-go service so you don't pay anything for voice minutes that you don't use.

You give them money every so often - the phone starts with $10 or $15 in your account. If you make or receive a phone call during the day, you pay $0.20 a minute. During the night or on weekends, you pay $0.10 a minute. You pay to send text messages ($0.10) but not to receive them. You pay to receive multimedia messages (audio or picture) - $0.25 a message. You can also pay to download games, etc.

If you don't use any of the above, you won't pay anything - nothing will be removed from your account. You must put money in every so often (I believe it is 90 days) or they will kill the account.

You get unlimited web access (required for tracking) for $0.20 a day. I guess this is removed from your account daily (I haven't checked yet - I'd log in now to check but I don't remember my phone number).

So, the initial $10 in the account will give you 50 days of service. You must boost (top-up) your account with more money after that to continue using it.

This is the good thing about pay-as-you-go - you don't need to pay for stuff you don't need. You only pay for things you use, when you use them. My current cell phone (that I use for calls) is also pay-as-you-go, but with a different company. I prefer the plan they offer and I don't have any intention of switching carriers.

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It looks like you may be able to get out of the $0.20 a day charge for web if you use accutracking (don't know about mologogo). If you only want to use the phone for tracking, you can disable web access but call them and have them enable MMS (which is supposed to be free).
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Tracking:

I've only played with mologogo so far. You can tell it how often to update the server. It defaults to 5 minute intervals.

You leave the phone on with the app running. It does not appear to be able to run in the background. Since I'm not using the phone for anything else, this isn't a problem for me.

Accutracking, on the other hand, appears to be able to run in the background. I will probably try setting this up tonight.

Mologogo displays updated maps on your phone showing you where you are (the map positions are updated when it updates the server - it doesn't show you your live position based on GPS). It can show the road or "satellite" view from google maps on the phone.

Mologogo can also show you the positions of your friends that are nearby and issue an alarm depending on proximity.

GPS Navigating:

You can also pay for a navigation system similar to what Squintz is describing through Boost Mobile. I think it's something like $5 to start and $1.50 per trip.

Personally, I prefer to use my PDA and GPS receiver for navigation. It may mean carrying more things, but the screen is bigger and my receiver is faster (to acquire) and seems to be more accurate than the phone one (and it works much better with limited satellite visibility).
 
Skibum,

Thanks for that link. I had no idea that you were doing the locate me thing this way. I am having issue connection to my upload manager so I need to go get a data cable. I can't wait to use it. I am glad you pointed that out to me because I was about to try and reinvent the wheel and this is something I was not really prepared to tackle.

Also,

I just did a search for mobile irc and came up with http://jmirc.sourceforge.net/index.html So now if you own a mobile phone that supports java you no longer have a reason to miss friday night chats :D
 
OK, I'm getting hooked. I filled my shopping cart with the following items. Is this all I need to track my kids in their cars ?


Phone i7101 $229.99
-$180.00 (promotion discount)
Fair & Flexible Plan (lowest) $29.99
Nextel Data Access Pack3 $10.00
TeleNavTM Unlimited4 $10.00

This equates to $49.00 for the phone - one time charge and then $50 per month for the the data access and GPS access?

What about this cable thing I saw mentioned?

Joe
 
The cable is used in place of NEXTEL mobile application manager. You should be able to load the software either way.
 
Joe W said:
OK, I'm getting hooked. I filled my shopping cart with the following items. Is this all I need to track my kids in their cars ?


Phone i7101 $229.99
-$180.00 (promotion discount)
Fair & Flexible Plan (lowest) $29.99
Nextel Data Access Pack3 $10.00
TeleNavTM Unlimited4 $10.00

This equates to $49.00 for the phone - one time charge and then $50 per month for the the data access and GPS access?

What about this cable thing I saw mentioned?

Joe
Joe,
Are you planing on using that phone as a phone as well as tracking? The other phone is only $39 on EBay and only $6 a month for unlimited tracking.
 
You will need a cable if you go with Boost (as far as I know). That's the only way to load the programs into the phone.

I just loaded accutracking into my phone. Here's a picture of my current location. The phone is sitting on my windowsill. The map is pretty close.
 

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smee said:
Personally, I prefer to use my PDA and GPS receiver for navigation. It may mean carrying more things, but the screen is bigger and my receiver is faster (to acquire) and seems to be more accurate than the phone one (and it works much better with limited satellite visibility).
I'd like to revise this comment that I made previously.

I've been playing with accutracking and my i415 phone for a few days now. I'm pretty happy with the performance of the GPS hardware in this phone. I haven't done any real tests (or even compared it against my other receivers) but it seems to be pretty fast and sensitive (maybe I was just having problems with mologogo before).

I used the phone to track my drive to work this morning. The phone fell down between the passenger seat and door right at the beginning of the drive. For the next 25 minutes it sat there until I could retrieve it toward the end (where are the traffic jams when you really need them?). It continued to get a fix and update accutracking during that time and the fixes look pretty accurate - not bad at all for basically no direct sky visibility. I had it updating every 2 minutes for testing so I have quite a few good data points.

On the other hand, yesterday at lunch I had it sitting in my jacket pocket indoors near a window. The fixes while I was eating were bouncing around all over the place (apparently I had a particularly active lunch). This is not unusual for a GPS signal (and actual pretty impressive that it got the fix).

Overall, the GPS capability seems to be comparable (although maybe not as good) as my BT-338 (bluetooth receiver) with a SirRF III chipset (one of the most recent chipsets). Sometime, I'll see if I can scrounge up a serial cable for the phone and check the NMEA output. This should allow it to be hooked up to a PC or PDA.
 
Smee,

It's funny that your phone fell down on the floor and continued to get fixes. I had the same thing happen to me :unsure: I sat it on my dash board and as soon as a made the turn it fell out of my reach. When I got home to check the log the entire trip was still there.

I am happy with accutracking and I hope the makers of it continue to offer it as a free service while adding more features to it.

Do any of you know of a good RSS reader for the phones? Cocoontech does not load very well on my phone as well as my gmail and yahoo mail accounts.

Also, can anyone tell me how to type capitol letters into my phone. I can't login to my e-mail account because i don't know how to do caps.
 
Squintz,

Do you still need a data cable?

This company I have found to be reliable and fast shipping. Even their free shipping from Hong Kong was less then a week after I ordered.

http://www.cellphoneshop.net/dasufornei7i.html

Note: Smee's comments regarding after market accessories may be very valid, however, everything I have purchased from here has been good. YMMV
 
I got the data cable.

It did not come with software or drivers so I went onto motorolas site and founds some software and drivers. I kinda screwed myself though because the first driver I installed is the driver that is detected by the hardware manager every time I connect the phone. However that driver is a modem driver and not what I was looking to use. So now when I try to install the other drivers they are not starting because the modem driver is always the first one to be detected. I tried to unistall the modem driver and i even deleted what i thought were all the files but for some reason it just reinstalls itself and the others fail during installation because that one is alreadin installed.

I put in a help ticket with motorola so hopefully i can get this resolved.
 
Rupp:

I've been playing with accutracking for the last week or so and everything has been working very well. I'm pretty impressed.

Squintz:

I don't know if you will get anywhere with Motorola (I think I read somewhere that you need a hacked version of the driver to get it to work).

You can follow the directions from www.mologogo.com to set up the data connection (it's in their wiki). You need to get webjal running. The instructions from mologogo will work with either mologogo or accutracking - they are only the directions to get the "download to the phone" stuff working. You can not download the software from mologogo.

I think it will be easier to get help from the forums at accutracking than from motorola.

You can look here for complete instructions and the software:
www.harrythompson.com
I have no idea who this guy is, but the instructions and the software work. Proceed at your own risk.
 
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