damn I must be predictable lol, yes I setup an event to turn off the device when an ON is detected for that device (in case of stray signals), and that same event also resends the OFF signal 2 seconds later, and another one 5 seconds later. When HS turns the car on , it also triggers this event, so I am hoping I will be covered. Does Z-Wave have these reliability problems too or is it 100% reliable?