Email Direct from Board

[trumpetr]

Just because it seems as HAI developers monitor here.. It would be great to be able to have an email send directly from the board as an action in the automation programming. I know that snap link and other software provides this ability, but I’m trying to eliminate the PC operating correctly variable from the equation.

There are more and more situations that people are not installing phone lines (yes the cellular communicator is an option) but with internet access already provided, another connection method should not be necessary. Specifically I've just installed for a customer in a lake house, with internet access, but no phone service due to personal cell usage. He doesn’t want to spend the extra $$ for an extra cell card or phone line.

Are there any thoughts on the possible future implementation? If the board can make a phone call, surely the coding to add a simple pop type email access shouldn't be too hard to include.

Thanks,

Matt

 

[ASIHome]

Always remember that you can send emails from the 5.7e and the 10p. If they are thinking about going to a touch screen from the LCD console, use the email capabilities as an upsell opportunity.

 

[trumpetr]

Always remember that you can send emails from the 5.7e and the 10p. If they are thinking about going to a touch screen from the LCD console, use the email capabilities as an upsell opportunity.

Which tells me even more that it is possible to write in as an automation rule.... Good advice and I'll definatally use that in the future, but for the price of one of the touchscreens, I can also have the requisite computer sitting on their counter and avaiable for web surfing etc.

 

[jharrell]

I agree this would be a great feature but I suspect the odds are low we will see this with the current hardware.

From what I can tell HAI basically coded their own TCP/IP stack, you can see this in their implementation of the TCP protocol in which they assume you have access to the IP header for packet length blurring the layers 3,4 and 5 in the OSI model, which in most programming environments you must go out of your way to do that(raw sockets). Also the their stack has no concept of default gateway or the ability to do DNS lookups, this pretty much rules out sending SMTP mails.

I think their strategy is to use the touch screens as embedded servers providing email capabilities, if you don't want to rely on a PC.

Which tells me even more that it is possible to write in as an automation rule.... Good advice and I'll definatally use that in the future, but for the price of one of the touchscreens, I can also have the requisite computer sitting on their counter and avaiable for web surfing etc.

 

[trumpetr]

I agree this would be a great feature but I suspect the odds are low we will see this with the current hardware.

From what I can tell HAI basically coded their own TCP/IP stack, you can see this in their implementation of the TCP protocol in which they assume you have access to the IP header for packet length blurring the layers 3,4 and 5 in the OSI model, which in most programming environments you must go out of your way to do that(raw sockets). Also the their stack has no concept of default gateway or the ability to do DNS lookups, this pretty much rules out sending SMTP mails.

I think their strategy is to use the touch screens as embedded servers providing email capabilities, if you don't want to rely on a PC.

Which tells me even more that it is possible to write in as an automation rule.... Good advice and I'll definatally use that in the future, but for the price of one of the touchscreens, I can also have the requisite computer sitting on their counter and available for web surfing etc.

Well that's kind of a downer to hear.... I'll have to sniff out the packets and take a peak sometime and see exactly what they are doing.

I've been poking around and opportunistically this device http://www.cocoontech.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15005 was posted in another section. In just a VERY quick read through the specs it seems as if you may be able to use an output to trigger an email out of this (or am I way off base). I know that it is meant for temp monitoring but with some approprate logic coding could it be adapted to at least send a "Hey look at my log and see what happened" type of message?

 

[jharrell]

I believe any of their interface solutions have the ability to send an email based on an event in the controller. I know I use Web-Link II and have a "button" setup in the controller called "Email Status" that does nothing. In Web-Link I have a email rule to send a email whenever that button is executed. I then have a automation rule on the Omni to execute the button at sunrise every day. This setup basically sends me a status summary every morning for my review, which is just nice to let me know everything is ok when we are out of town etc.

This is in addition to web-link having a rule to send me an email when an alarm trips

Also I have a custom piece of code that runs on my home server that polls the thermostats and event logs every 10 minutes and logs it to a SQL database. This was written in .Net using their SDK. Using their SDK you can also subscribe to controller events and write your own logic (such as emailing) based on them if you wish.

Well that's kind of a downer to hear.... I'll have to sniff out the packets and take a peak sometime and see exactly what they are doing.

I've been poking around and opportunistically this device http://www.cocoontech.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15005 was posted in another section. In just a VERY quick read through the specs it seems as if you may be able to use an output to trigger an email out of this (or am I way off base). I know that it is meant for temp monitoring but with some approprate logic coding could it be adapted to at least send a "Hey look at my log and see what happened" type of message?