Thanks for the responses, I would have replied this AM but I'm still in the restricted box.
ano said:
So first of all, a ZPCI-B is a phase coupler from Simply Automated. There really no "Gen" for phase couplers, but they work with Gen I, which is what Simply Automated also sells. Gen III allows the use of repeaters (as opposed to couplers) but they aren't required. Repeaters are much better than couplers, but since Gen I doesn't support repeaters, you could have problems with Gen I switches and a repeater on opposite phases.'t.
Thanks for the clarification on the couplers = no generational bias, I'm going to assume its just gone "bad" and get a new one to try. I'll probably get a PCS PPC-1 and see how that performs.
pete_c said:
Curious too if you have been using Upstart diagnostics with your adding of new switches?
A few years ago here went to transitioning to all SA UPB switches from a hodgepodge of PCS, HAI and SA UPB switches.
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So curious if you have used Upstart for signal metering with the installation of your new switches?
Some additional background on all of this. I recently moved, well a year ago, and when I sold my old house the new owners did not want any of the automated switches. So I had to remove all of the UPB stuff and move it with me. All of the switches were HAI G1 and *maybe* a couple of G2 ones. Really for the 12+ years I lived in that house the UPB was simply rock solid.
Here in the new house I have run in to some difficulties with noise interfering with my UPB signals. The noise comes from our Carrier Infinity outdoor A/C-H/P unit, its a variable speed PWM controlled unit, 240/30AMP
Through some experimentation I found that using a new PCS PIM, which produces a stronger signal then my HAI or Leviton PIM's, does seem to help. The other "big" help is from using the newest UPB switches G3? I had some of the latest (and last) Leviton 35A00-1 switches (f/w 1.09) and those seem to be able to work with the noise. I also purchased a couple of gently used PCS WS1DL (f/w 05.58) and set them to low sensitivity and those also have been working very reliably.
The above is just to indicate that I'm going to be deploying G3 level switch hardware due to the noise issue, the old G1 version simply don't work with the line noise. With the above PIM/Switch updates the PIM to switch communication has been very reliable, switch transmission can, however, be spotty.
I did enable the noise position viewer and noise logger in UpStart and the noise is typically as follows Type: 9, Level: 0, Energy: 097, Position: 000 Looking at the position bar graph its all in that first bar. Since the coupler is passive I'd assume it makes no distinction between noise and signal and simply passes the item through. I have noise on both legs so I don't think the coupler would make the noise worse. Curious if the more expensive repeater makes a noise vs signal distinction, meaning it would only repeat a real signal?
@pete_c what specific Upstart diagnostics are you referring to? I've certainly run the communications tests and noise meter tests. With the current coupler in the panel its no signal just failure. I tried with a switch in setup mode and it was not found, also with a switch I had adopted, and it also failed. Removing the coupler allows them to work normally. I don't think I looked at the noise log/position delta with the couple in place, I may do that soon.