Question on security

v1rtu0s1ty said:
And, huge issue is, will your neighbor allow you to do this? Not unless they are your relatives.
A few beers and he will let me.. (actually he told me once before to get rid of my internet and use his) I couldnt in good faith do that continuously :) but in an emergency...

I was thinking of a linksys router with a Linux firmware. hmmm maybe have to get into this more at a later date
 
mustangcoupe said:
v1rtu0s1ty said:
And, huge issue is, will your neighbor allow you to do this? Not unless they are your relatives.
A few beers and he will let me.. (actually he told me once before to get rid of my internet and use his) I couldnt in good faith do that continuously :) but in an emergency...

I was thinking of a linksys router with a Linux firmware. hmmm maybe have to get into this more at a later date
I'll do some research tonight about load balancing using two ISPs and using either linux/freebsd or openbsd. I'm sure CARP can do this. I'll keep you posted of things I will find.
 
rfdesq said:
noshali said:
I like the cellular idea but have no idea what it takes to do this.
A cellular transmitter from Uplink, an ELK M1XSP, and $7.50 per month to NextAlarm.
Is there an additional cost for the cellular service? Do you need an account with Uplink?
 
jeffx said:
Is there an additional cost for the cellular service? Do you need an account with Uplink?
There is an extra $7.50 per month to NextAlarm on top of their usual $7.95 per month monitoring charge. NextAlarm turns over less than the $7.50 to Uplink and everybody is happy.
 
So it is only an additional $7.50 total per month once you buy the uplink, celullar service included??!?
 
jeffx said:
So it is only an additional $7.50 total per month once you buy the uplink, celullar service included??!?
Yep. There is a new digital 1650 from Uplink that is in beta now. The new unit will send full CID information via cellular.
 
Since I already use NextAlarm, this is definitely something I am interested in and will be looking into.
 
Just one more question, how did you program your Uplink Digicell 1500? Did NextAlarm do this for you?
 
jeffx said:
Just one more question, how did you program your Uplink Digicell 1500? Did NextAlarm do this for you?
I don't have one yet. The new digital 1650 is not available, it was supposed to be out early Q3 but didn't make it. From my understanding there is a dealer site on Uplink.com that will allow you to program your own unit, but don't quote me on that.
 
here is a good summary of Cellular backup for alarm monitoring copied from http://www.emergency24.com/pr/Spring2004.htm.

Commercial and residential alarm systems have a similar point of vulnerability…the phone line. Since most alarm installations rely on basic commercial and residential phone service, interruption resulting from poor weather conditions or deliberately cut lines can leave even the most high-tech alarm system isolated and unable to relay alarm signals. Fortunately, the past few years have seen wireless technologies become more reliable and user-friendly, and they can now be used in conjunction with existing digital dialers to add an extra level of security. The options in wireless alarm devices for installers and subscribers are growing. There are differing technologies that wireless alarm systems utilize.

The three most widely used are Radio, Cellular and Mobitex:

RADIO SOLUTIONS:
Radio units use long-range radio waves to relay signals through towers or relay nodes. AlarmNet, one of the industry leaders in radio alarm devices, provides two types of long-range radio devices; one-way and two-way. These types differ in how they “speak†over the radio network. One-way means that when the device sends a signal, it travels from tower to tower in one direction until it reaches a main node. Two-way radios can communicate back and forth across the radio network, and the units are “polled†to assess whether the unit has not dropped from the network. One-way radios are not polled, but they are capable of sending regular network signals to assure constant connectivity.

CELLULAR SOLUTIONS:
There are two types of cellular technologies; analog/voice cellular and control channel cellular. Analog/voice cellular uses the existing cellular infrastructure to make a phone call and deliver an analog alarm signal (similar to digital dialers) using cellular towers instead of phone lines. The second and more widely used type is control channel cellular. This technology uses digital channels within a cellular scope not used for voice, but which control and initiate the cellular call. This technology reduces interference and distortion when delivering a signal. When looking at the control channel cellular devices, there are four names to consider:

AlarmNet - Produced by Ademco, the AlarmNet-C devices come in different models with varying features. AlarmNet-C is sometimes referred to as Microburst, and it is actually the classification of the transmission type the units use over the control channels. The formats available to send via the AlarmNet-C are Ademco High-Speed and Contact ID.

Telguard
is another wireless option that uses Microburst transmissions over cellular control channels. There are various models and classifications, and it is capable of multiple formats, including 3/1, 4/2, Contact ID and Modem IIe/IIIa. Telguards also work with most major central station receivers, which means that you can use a standard digital account number as long as you know which format you would like to send.

Uplink - Produced by Numerex, Uplink also uses the cellular control channel to transmit alarm signals, but it transmits using Cellemetry as opposed to Microburst. Both of Uplink’s current models are capable of sending 3/1, 4/2, Contact ID, Modem IIe/IIIa and Security Industry Association (SIA). Like Telguard, Uplink can be used with any central station receiver that accepts the format you choose to send.

SkyRoute - Produced by DSC (Digital Security Controls), SkyRoute provides cellular control channel alarm signals via Cellemetry. SkyRoute has standalone models as well as snap-in modules that work with existing DSC panels. All are capable of relaying signals in Contact ID and SIA. Within the continental United States, the SkyRoute service itself is operated by Connect24 Data Communications.

MOBITEX SOLUTIONS:
Mobitex is not a new technology, but thanks to increased use and publicity, companies are turning toward this technology and network for new wireless business solutions. AlarmNet has been using this technology for years with the AlarmNet-M service. This very reliable wireless alarm system uses existing communication towers to relay alarm signals. It is capable of giving solid security with supervision communication every five minutes, which in turn gives it one of the best Underwriters Laboratories (UL) ratings.

How do you decide which wireless solution is best for you?
Whether you are in an urban or rural setting, when deciding the appropriate wireless solution for your subscriber, consider signal strength for both radio and cellular coverage, the level of security and supervision desired, the format you would prefer to use and any UL requirements for the installation. As always, you will want to contact the manufacturer to make sure any wireless device you use meets the UL requirements for the subscriber business type, insurance and local municipality.
 
Per NextAlarm.com support: "Cellular monitoring costs an additional
$7.50 per month, and you do not need to purchase your own cellular
service on top of that."

:)
 
Back
Top